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Luke Skywalker, Rebel Hero Options
Sashlon
Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:15:16 PM
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This is my shot at a ROTJ Luke. I wish there was a rebel luke like this. Let me know what you think!

Luke Skywalker, Rebel Hero
Faction: Rebel
Cost: 55
HP: 130
Def: 21
Atk: +13
Dam: 20

Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack
Djem So Style (Whenever this character is hit by a melee attack, make a save of 11.
On a success, this character can make an immediate attack against that attacker)
Mettle (If this character spends 1 Force point to reroll, add +4 to the result)
Twin Attack

Force Powers
Force 2, Renewal 1
Dark Temptation
(Force 1: +4 Attack and +20 Damage until the end of this character's
turn. At the end of that turn, make a save of 11; if this save fails, this character
joins the opponent's squad until the end of the skirmish.)
Lightsaber Assault (Force 1, replaces attacks: Make 2 attacks)
Lightsaber Block (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage
with a save of 11)
Master Speed ( Force 1: This character can move 6 extra squares on its turn as part
of its move)
Use the Force (Force 3: This character's next attack roll counts as a natural 20)
CerousMutor
Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 6:10:20 PM
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I like but he could be open to abuse.
I'd maybe slip in something like
Resolute (this character does not benifit from Command Effects or Allied abilities that boost attack rolls)
to show that when he goes toe to toe with Vader and Palps he' does it alone.
Human Black Sun Vigo
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:19:11 AM
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If you're going toward the dark temptation-y side, that was after the NR was established. BTW, Luke Skywalker, Rebel Hero is already a mini, isn't he?
qvos
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:56:17 PM
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Looks pretty cool. I would like to see more usable Luke's . I'm sure I wouldn't make the dark temptation SaveMad
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:24:54 PM
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Needs reworking...at a +13 with Twin and lightsaber assault, there a very very few reason one would ever use Dark Temptation... I can get just as much damage with less of a risk. Too many HP's (especially) and overall does not capture the time frame you were hoping for.
Sashlon
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:33:18 PM
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Needs reworking...at a +13 with Twin and lightsaber assault, there a very very few reason one would ever use Dark Temptation... I can get just as much damage with less of a risk. Too many HP's (especially) and overall does not capture the time frame you were hoping for.


I completely disagree about your time frame comment. Luke in ROTJ is powerful enough the totally own Vader in a one on one fight, so I don't think 130hp is unrealistic at all.

Your comment on DT is interesting. Maybe he should have a lower base attack. I believe DT fits the flavor of ROTJ luke as he was most certainly tempted by the dark side during his confrontation with Vader and the Emperor.

Sashlon
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34:31 PM
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I might drop LS assault, that would make DT a far more tempting option I think.
Inquisitive Infiltrator
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:49:08 PM
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Djem So and twin at 55 pts, alone is not right. LS assault and Twin at 55 is even worse. It would be open to abuse indeed. Han Rebel hero would be his best friend.
Sashlon
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:23:54 PM
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Inquisitive Infiltrator wrote:
Djem So and twin at 55 pts, alone is not right. LS assault and Twin at 55 is even worse. It would be open to abuse indeed. Han Rebel hero would be his best friend.


Anakin champion of Nelvaan has djem so + twin for 49

Like I said, I'm mulling dropping LS assault
CerousMutor
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:54:28 PM
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And rebels need djem so + twin Tongue

Drop LS Assualt add flurry
Sashlon
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:47:15 PM
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OK, after taking on board some criticism and thinking about some new ideas, here's a revised version:

Luke Skywalker, Rebel Hero
Faction: Rebel
Cost: 55
HP: 110
Def: 20
Atk: +13
Dam: 20

Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack
Double Attack
Djem So Style
(Whenever this character is hit by a melee attack, make a save of 11.
On a success, this character can make an immediate attack against that attacker)
Mettle (If this character spends 1 Force point to reroll, add +4 to the result)
Flurry Attack (Whenever this character scores a critical hit, it can make 1 immediate extra attack)

Force Powers
Force 2, Renewal 1
Dark Temptation
(Force 1: +4 Attack and +20 Damage until the end of this character's
turn. At the end of that turn, make a save of 11; if this save fails, this character
joins the opponent's squad until the end of the skirmish.)
Lightsaber Block (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage
with a save of 11)
Knight Speed ( Force 1: This character can move 4 extra squares on its turn as part
of its move)
Use the Force (Force 3: This character's next attack roll counts as a natural 20)

What do you think?
CerousMutor
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49:29 PM
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It now seems odd having Djem, Flurry, Mettle and Use the Force
saber1
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:34:03 PM
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Its looking better. However, consider adding LS Deflect as it is a staple ability for Luke.
cicrush13
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:37:40 PM
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I would just cut LSblock and change it to Defense since he is good against shooters and melee attackers.
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:17:31 AM
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Sashlon wrote:
The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Needs reworking...at a +13 with Twin and lightsaber assault, there a very very few reason one would ever use Dark Temptation... I can get just as much damage with less of a risk. Too many HP's (especially) and overall does not capture the time frame you were hoping for.


I completely disagree about your time frame comment. Luke in ROTJ is powerful enough the totally own Vader in a one on one fight, so I don't think 130hp is unrealistic at all.

Your comment on DT is interesting. Maybe he should have a lower base attack. I believe DT fits the flavor of ROTJ luke as he was most certainly tempted by the dark side during his confrontation with Vader and the Emperor.



He was able to do this because he essentially used Dark Temptation to do it...luckily he made his save. It wasn't even a stand and deliver blows kind of fight...Luke essentially ran around the room (presumably gaining Force points) and ran in for the kill once Vader goaded him.

As for the new piece, I would consider dropping Use the Force, it just doesn't fit, could be rather abusable and is counterproductive to DT (which must stay). Flurry could stay. And I agree that it may as well just be Lightsaber Defense as Luke demonstrated both of these in the duel (batting away Lightsaber Throw)

110 is probably about dead on as far as HPs (in relation to other Luke figures) for this time frame.

I'm torn on your switch of Twin for Double. While I think Double is the better choice when considering Djem So, I think you need to at least add Greater Mobile and thus drop Knight Speed.

To further add to the theme, you might need some kind of ability such as Protective (with a MOTF twist?) or something to do with being within 6 of an enemy Vader.

Or perhaps: Take your Father's place at my side: This character is able to spend Emperor Palpatine's Force points and may spend force points and extra time per turn.

Basically something along the lines of making his Dark Temptation save a little easier under the right circumstances, but still quite the gamble in others.

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