Just a guess and I could be wrong but......it seems like because the Rebel's have a cheap figure like General Rieekan who gives Evade and Mobile Attack. Therefore the Rebel's don't seem to get much else in the way of decent CE's or SA's. That would be my guess. Seems like it's a game balancing issue to me.

Because Rebels really don't need it. All their good CE's are already board wide. Examples are Rieekan, Han Solo STA, Ilthorian Commander, Crix Madine, Dodonna, etc. For the CE's that are limited to a range, you can't honestly tell me you can't fit a Mouse Droid or two in the squad.



Then you're giving every faction the same capabilities. The idea behind restricting what each faction does and does not have access to gives a certain feel and character to it. The Rebels synergize very well, but are fragile. Republic have some really impressive pieces to choose from, but they can be expensive. Imperial has the swap and Vader builds, but has to rely a lot on Fringe pieces for support. OR now has a way to cancel CE's but really has no strong shooter of their own.

The game would turn into a cookie-cutter factory if we allowed every faction to have every SA, and wouldn't be as much fun to play. I think excluding certain abilities from certain factions is a good decision, and one that should be kept.

Sincerely,
Jester007

Not every faction should have access to every SA, if they did then other than different character names they would be the same.
Rebel have access to very cheap Evade.

The smaller factions could do with something similar, however the Vsets are slowly addressing the fact they are not at the same game play as the largest factions.

I think other than having access to things like override, reasonable shooters. all factions should have something that makes them unique.

BV is already on two factions and that's enough. same go's for other SA's such as MT or NTMTO SA you mention. Not every faction should have access to them, so it's not unique to BV others SA's are also limited to certain factions. As for Swap, well that's already over used as it is.

There have been so many good discussions on this topic in the game designers forum (V set thing).

There are some SA's and CE's that some factions will NEVER have because they would be too overpowering. It's just too many to list.

I understand that and that is what I want =) conversation. To know why people feel the way they feel. I am loving that so many people have already piped in so quickly.

I agree with that. There should be something to separate one faction from another, other than the mins sculpt. I think the game has begun down the road of homogenization, and I, as a non expert, believe that started with sweeping board wide abilities. It takes the game from tactical squad based war game to simple rules RPG where hero characters are light years ahead of the mooks. I love the mouse droid because it extended the commander abilities, but it was still an obvious accessible focus that had to be managed.

Right now the Vsets are all about bringing balance to the game. That doesn't mean giving each faction access to the same things; it means that in a competitive tournament, every faction should have a build or two that can compete at the highest level. Rebel squads have won the last 3 national championships at GenCon; thats why you saw very little help for them in Destiny of the Force, and thats why you'll likely never see Booming Voice in their faction. The perfect world in Star Wars Minis would be people in important tournaments playing the factions that appeal to them; what they like about Star Wars. That's when we'll know the game is balanced.

@General Ed I would cry if seps got booming voice. Its my brothers favorite faction, we dont even have the best peices and he makes battle droids in to nightmares. With like +12 attack each, 6 attacks, 20 damage. Scary. We dont need that to be wide spread!

Sure and while at it, why not give Opp+10 as well, huh?
Rebels are the unique fraction which has access to evade, tempo control, swap, Cunning+20, mobile, charging assault and immediate attack (from any follower, as well as rebel follower at +4 and +10 dam) what else do they really need? Come on!! They have nearly all the best CE's and are really cheap.

If you want to give rebels booming voice, then give Imps Rieekan.


V-sets need to balance the game in the way as WotC did and fix their mistakes (which are currently fixed - OR, Mando, and YV now are really scary and competable). So Rebels have weak but cheap heroes (in general), imps are costly powershouses, and Republic are.....you know just themselves.

Discussion and debate is what makes our community strong.

There are things that each faction does well, and things that they are weak at. Certain factions have similarities due to their 'in universe' similarities, for example Rebels and New Republic have very similar stuff, but that totally makes sense. So does Republic and Imperials having similar stuff.

There are also certain things that, because of their stregths, certain factions should NEVER get.

Rebels should never get Booming Voice/Master Tactician (mainly because they have everything else, I mean Slow Cannon would be even more powerful if Princess Leia's CE was boardwide)
Imperials should never get Mobile/Evade (Because they can swap)
Republic should never get Mobile/Evade/Tempo/Master Tactician (Because they are powerful without these things, and it would likely break them)
Separatists should never get Master Tactician (same as Republic, they just dont need it and it could break them)
New Republic should never get Booming Voice/Master Tactician (same again, it would break them probebly)

It's harder to say what the other factions DONT need, but they are still catching up at this point. DOTF did a great job of helping those factions get into the game, and I thnk R&R will further help.