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bluedionysius
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:18:57 PM
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I'm trying to find out how many different races there are in the set of figures that WotC provided. Some of these are a bit difficlult to figure out. I would appreciate some help.


What is the race of:

Darth Bane
Cad Bane
Asajj Ventress
Zuckuss
Exar Kun
Aurra Sing
Shaak Ti
Naga Sadow
Durge
Yoda
Saesee Tiin
Luminara Unduli
Darth Krayt
Lobot
Qunlan Vos
Jareael
Darth Maul
Shado Vao
Kazdan Paratus
Juhani
Lumiya
Darth Sion
Vodo-Siosk Baas
Imperial Sentinel
Depa Billaba
Freedon Nadd
Bomo Greenbark
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Darth Nihilus
Nym
Darth Plagueis
Visa marr
Xizor
Voolvif Monn
Wolf Sazen
Darth Nihl
Hondo Ohnaka
K’Kruhk
Gha Nachkt
Garindan
Zam wesell
Jodo Kast
Even Piell
Wat Tambor
Agen Kolar
Stass Allie
Sly Moore
Crimson Nova
Blood carver (is a race?)
Djas Puhr
B’omarr Monk
BoShek
Calo Nord
Tion Medon
Yuzzem
Ponda Baba
Ephant Mon
T’Surr (is a race?)
Dr Evazan
Nien Nunb
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:31:20 PM
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Most of these can be easily looked up on wookieepedia.
Lily_Wan
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:33:07 PM
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Some I know...

Cad Bane - Duros
Zuckuss - Gand
Aurra Sing - Half Human, half-Nagai (implied)
Darth Nihl - Nagai
Yoda - Frog, according to Lucas
Darth Krayt - Tusken
Darth Maul - Zabrak
Shado Vao - Twi'lek
Juhani - Cathar
Ki-Adi-Mundi - Cerean
Visa marr - Miraluka
Darth Plagueis - Muun
Xizor - Faleen
Voolvif Monn - Shistavaen
Wolf Sazen - Zabrak
Hondo Ohnaka - Weequay, I think
Gha Nachkt - Trandoshan
Zam wesell - Clawdite
Crimson Nova - Farghul
Calo Nord - Human
Tion Medon - Utapaun
Yuzzem - Yuzzem
Ponda Baba - Aqualish
Ephant Mon - Chevin
Nien Nunb - Sullustan
EmporerDragon
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:10:39 PM
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Darth Bane - Human
Cad Bane - Duros
Asajj Ventress - Conflicting Canon. In the comics and novels, Rattataki. In the Clone Wars series, Dathomiran
Zuckuss - Gand
Exar Kun - Human
Aurra Sing - Human/Unknown species (likely Umbaran) hybrid
Shaak Ti - Togruta
Naga Sadow - Sith/Human hybrid
Durge - Gen'Dai
Yoda - Muppet
Saesee Tiin - Iktotchi
Luminara Unduli - Mirialan
Darth Krayt - Human
Lobot - Human
Qunlan Vos - Kiffar
Jareael - Arkanian with some Sephi ancestry
Darth Maul - Zabrak
Shado Vao - Twi'lek
Kazdan Paratus - Aleena
Juhani - Cathar
Lumiya - Human
Darth Sion - Human
Vodo-Siosk Baas - Krevaaki
Imperial Sentinel - Mutant Human
Depa Billaba - Human
Freedon Nadd - Human
Bomo Greenbark - Nosaurian
Ki-Adi-Mundi - Cerean
Darth Nihilus - Human
Nym - Feeorin
Darth Plagueis - Muun
Visa marr - Miralukan
Xizor - Falleen
Voolvif Monn - Shistavanen
Wolf Sazen - Zabrak
Darth Nihl - Nagai
Hondo Ohnaka - Weequay
K’Kruhk - Whipid
Gha Nachkt - Trandoshan
Garindan - Kubaz
Zam wesell - Clawdite
Jodo Kast - Human
Even Piell - Lannik
Wat Tambor - Skakoan
Agen Kolar - Zabrak
Stass Allie - Human
Sly Moore - Unbaran
Crimson Nova - Farghul
Blood carver (is a race?) - Blood Carver
Djas Puhr - Sakiyan
B’omarr Monk - Various Species' Brains
BoShek - Human
Calo Nord - Human
Tion Medon - Pau'an
Yuzzem - Yuzzem
Ponda Baba - Aqualish
Ephant Mon - Chevin
T’Surr (is a race?) - T'surr
Dr Evazan - Human
Nien Nunb - Sullustan
Dimetrodon
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:23:30 PM
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Edit: aww u beat me to it

This is fun late night stuff, thanks! haha, Kind of a cool test your knowledge thing for me.

Darth Bane (Human)
Cad Bane (Duros)
Asajj Ventress (Rattataki)
Zuckuss (Gand)
Exar Kun (Human)
Aurra Sing (Unknown, and unspecific origins)
Shaak Ti (Togruta)
Naga Sadow - (Sith)
Durge (Gen'dai)
Yoda (Uknown and unspecific origins)
Saesee Tiin (Iktotchi)
Luminara Unduli (Mirialan)
Darth Krayt (Human)
Lobot (Human Cyborg)
Qunlan Vos (Human)
Jareael (Arkanian Offshoot)
Darth Maul (Zabrak)
Shado Vao (Twi'Lek)
Juhani (Cathar)
Lumiya (Human)
Darth Sion (Human)
Vodo-Siosk Baas (Krevaaki)
Imperial Sentinel (Humans Mutated by the Dark Side assumably)
Depa Billaba (Human)
Freedon Nadd (Human)
Bomo Greenbark (Nosaurian)
Ki-Adi-Mundi (Cerean)
Darth Nihilus (Invisible Man)
Darth Plagueis (Muun)
Visa marr (Miraluka)
Xizor (Falleen)
Voolvif Monn (Shitavanen Wolfman)
Wolf Sazen (Zabrak)
Darth Nihl (Naga)
Hondo Ohnaka (Weequay)
K’Kruhk (Whiphid)
Garindan (Kubaz)
Gha Nachkt (Trandoshan)
Jodo Kast (Human)
Even Piell (Lannik)
Wat Tambor (Skakoan)
Agen Kolar (Zabrak)
Stass Allie (Human)
B’omarr Monk (Can be anything, its a disembodied brain)
BoShek (Human)
Calo Nord (Human)
Tion Medon (Utapaun)
Yuzzem (Yuzzem)
Ponda Baba (Aqualish)
Ephant Mon (Chevin)
T’Surr (T'surr)
Dr Evazan (Ugly Human)
Nien Nunb (Sullustan)

Ones I didn't know
Kazdan Paratus (Aleena)
Sly Moore (Umbaran)
Crimson Nova (Farghul)
Zam wesell (Clawdite)
Blood Carver (Blood Carver)
Nym (Feeorin)
Djas Puhr (Sakiyan)
Dimetrodon
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:37:12 PM
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Here are the remaining races

Caamasi
Aracona
Zeltron
Chadra-Fan
Bith
Abyssin
Kiffar
Anzati
Chagrian
Amanin
Verpine
Bothan
Devaronian
Chiss
Ewok
Gamorrean
Dressellian
Taung
Dug
Gungan
Ishi Tib
Kalldanian
Kaminoan
Togorian
Kaleesh
Wookiee
Yuuzhan Vong
Kel Dor
Geonosian
Ithorian
Felucian
Kerkodien
Vurk
Jawa
Klatooinian
Gotal Hutt
Nautoloan
Mon Calamari
Rodian
Neimodian
Quarren
Nikto
Toydarian
Ubese
Ugnaught
Talz
Noghri


I think thats it, But I imagine I might have missed some.
qvos
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:31:29 PM
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Pretty good you guys. Now you have to name all the planets represented in the Star Wars universe!
Dimetrodon
Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:49:10 PM
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qvos wrote:
Pretty good you guys. Now you have to name all the planets represented in the Star Wars universe!


It's someone elses turn.. lol
trappedslider
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:17:06 AM
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qvos wrote:
Pretty good you guys. Now you have to name all the planets represented in the Star Wars universe!


you want thire correct names or can i jsut go nuts?Flapper
adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:01:24 AM
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Lily_Wan wrote:

Darth Krayt - Tusken


Just a clarification:

Krayt was raised amongst the Tuskens, but he was very much human. His father was a jedi outcast who took over a tusken clan as a warlord. His monther was amongst the tusken people, but I assume that she must have also been a human... probably taken during a raid, as most species can't intermingle in star wars they way they do in DND.
bluedionysius
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:21:06 AM
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You guys are awsome. It would take me a week to look all this up. I am amazed at the number of races represented within the minis.

A couple more questions if you don't mind:

Republic clones would be represented as Mandalorian I assume, but would storm troopers best be represented as human, mandalorian or too mixed to characterize? (I know that at some poin others races were allowed).

Last question, are there any non-human rebels worth there plastic or was the Emporer right?

adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:16:35 AM
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bluedionysius wrote:
You guys are awsome. It would take me a week to look all this up. I am amazed at the number of races represented within the minis.

A couple more questions if you don't mind:

Republic clones would be represented as Mandalorian I assume, but would storm troopers best be represented as human, mandalorian or too mixed to characterize? (I know that at some poin others races were allowed).

Last question, are there any non-human rebels worth there plastic or was the Emporer right?



Actually, "Mandalorian" is not a race. Its a culture. Just like there is no "jedi" race. Mandalorians (depending on the time frame) can be of any race. So clones could either be considered "Human" or "Clones", depending on who you're asking. Most people seem to treat clones as lesser species. But its all arguable.

Rebel Wookiee Freedom Fighters are awesome. Likewise, the Ithorian commander is one of the best pieces in the game (in my opinion).
qvos
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adamb0nd wrote:
bluedionysius wrote:
You guys are awsome. It would take me a week to look all this up. I am amazed at the number of races represented within the minis.

A couple more questions if you don't mind:

Republic clones would be represented as Mandalorian I assume, but would storm troopers best be represented as human, mandalorian or too mixed to characterize? (I know that at some poin others races were allowed).

Last question, are there any non-human rebels worth there plastic or was the Emporer right?I would agree if not for the new Clone Wars new take on the Mandos. After all they are a peace loving society. Lol



Actually, "Mandalorian" is not a race. Its a culture. Just like there is no "jedi" race. Mandalorians (depending on the time frame) can be of any race. So clones could either be considered "Human" or "Clones", depending on who you're asking. Most people seem to treat clones as lesser species. But its all arguable.

Rebel Wookiee Freedom Fighters are awesome. Likewise, the Ithorian commander is one of the best pieces in the game (in my opinion).
qvos
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Oops. Sorry about that. I Would agree if not for the new Clone Wars series which depicsthr Mandalorians on their planet ad a peace loving people.... LOL
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 11:54:20 AM
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Dimetrodon
Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 4:49:16 PM
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qvos wrote:
Oops. Sorry about that. I Would agree if not for the new Clone Wars series which depicsthr Mandalorians on their planet ad a peace loving people.... LOL


the Evil retcons of Lucasfilm...

But I still go with Culture over race. If you're from Corellia or Alderaan you're still a human.. where does the line get drawn exactly?

I don't really mean to start a debate but I dunno, what do you guys think?
Lobotnik
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Dimetrodon wrote:
qvos wrote:
Oops. Sorry about that. I Would agree if not for the new Clone Wars series which depicsthr Mandalorians on their planet ad a peace loving people.... LOL


the Evil retcons of Lucasfilm...

But I still go with Culture over race. If you're from Corellia or Alderaan you're still a human.. where does the line get drawn exactly?

I don't really mean to start a debate but I dunno, what do you guys think?


Ok, so on the whole the Mandos were, as qvos pointed out, a "peace loving people". Well, they were people at least, most of them were humans (whic is their race)! But we also know that many beings of other species or races also joined the Mandos, because it was a culture. So Mandalorian is a culture or a nationality rather than a race.

The interesting bit comes however, when you ask someone where they are from or what they are, and this is true in the real world as well. You ask Mandalore the Ultimate what he is and he will not say human, he will say Mando!

Likewise, if someone asks me what I am, I say English as opposed to caucasian, which I would never use to describe myself. Some people would use their race as opposed to their nationality to describe themselves however.

Now, in the Star Wars universe, I think the main reason we get Mandos, Corellians, Alderaanians and other "races" is that there are so many humans there needs to be some way to distinguish them. It is just the same as here at home. We have different races amongst the human race so why wouldn't they, especially when the humans are divided by planets! The reason they get lumped into planet sized races is because it would be too difficult for aliens to distingiush them at a planet level (say different human races on different parts of Coruscant).

Now, the Mando nationality could also therefore be termed a race, but I think for the sake of argument it would be an exception, because it does appear (from the Legacy books) to be a race made up of different races. The Star Wars melting pot of killers and warriors so to speak.

The question posed is would clones be deemed Mandos? I think the answer has to be no because they were not exposed to the Mando culture, and it is the embracing of the Mando culture that allows one to become a Mando by race lol.

So, the short answer is, because of their lack of Mando culture, I think the clones were "merely" humans, although it was possible for clones to adopt the Mando way and enter the fold as it were.

@Dimetrodon - debate started! ;)
Lord_Ball
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In regards to (typical) Mandos the may be able to be classified as a different "race", but their SPECIES is most definitely Human or at least "near-Human".

That's the difference between DND and SW - similar Races can interbreed and in DND everything is a based as a similar race, in SW it's about species, and interspecial relations most often are incompatible in producing offspring.
Darth_Sal
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OK, I'll chime in.
First, clones. In general, no, clones are not "Mandalorian." However, if you read the Republic Commando books, you will see that certain clones, RCs and ARCs, were exposed to Mando tradition and culture and by the time of Order 66 many did become Mandalorian, so to speak. You will also see some clones who were trained by non-Mandalorians, specifically there was a Corellian training sergeant who exposed his trainees to his own culture. Those clones accepted and followed Corellians traditions and burial practices etc. Did they become Corellian...? Interesting question. Probably not, as Corellians would probably not accept them as such.... while Mandalorians would. The culture is the difference. Mandalorians willingly accept a variety of people into their ranks, provided those people follow the tenets of Mando culture...the Resol'nare.

Species.... Remember that the original Mandaloians were Taung... Mandalore was the name of their leader. Afterwards, Mandalorians were known to accept individuals of any race into their ranks, especially during the Mandalorians and Sith Wars it would seem, but the tradition continued through the Clones Wars. Check Republic Commando novels and Wookieepedia.

Incidentally Mandalore the Ultimate was Taung, not human.

Peace-loving Mandos... Retcon has placed these people on Mandalore (the planet) and in a single city. It has not removed the canon of Mandalore the Resurrector's movement, Fenn Shysa as Mandlore, the canon culture represented in the Traviss books, nor the rise Boba Fett as Mandalore (which continues to be developed after the cartoon's release)...

So what I think, and what is supported by canon in general, is that Satine's movement is only a single political faction within a broad Mandalorian society. Previous canon supports the idea that Mandalorian are often divided... and they are in the cartoon as well... there are the Death Watch (the Vizslas), the True Mandalorians (Jaster, Jango, Shysa, Boba) and New Mandalorians (Satine's faction). The fact that NJO/Legacy era Mandos are led by Fett seems to indicate that Satine's faction was relatively short-lived.

my two cents
SavageRancor
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Yea the correct terminology for this topic should have been species rather then race. People are talking about only humans from different planets, well if a rodian was from rodia and another was from coruscant then are they both not rodians?. same as to a humans, if one was born on corellia and another on alderaan they both would still be humans under the catagory of species. Though under the catagory of race they are seperated into corellian and alderaan(ian?), how ever if a duro was born on corellia she and the human would be considered corellian. What this topic is trying to establish is how many different species are in the SWM's universe. rather then races

dont even get me started on the whole race identity topic, it's messy and some people may take offence
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