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creme_brule
Posted: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 3:10:10 PM
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As the game stands currently, with V-Sets 1 and 2 (and any spoilers from V-set 3) which mini or group of minis is the worst possible figure to be created. I'm talking playability and squad wise. This is to perhaps help the V-set designers know what to cover perhaps in future V-sets to boost some weaker figs or even create characters in V-sets that those suckish figures can be RMs for (*hint hint*).

Off the top of my head the Klatoonians and I believe all of the Gamoereans are pretty bad. The MOTF Gamoerean isn't too shabby though. I would've mentioned Geonosian Drones but Poggle helped them out (nice work designers!)
General_Grievous
Posted: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:29:44 PM
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Despite Whorm, Poggle, Nute and the new Dooku's best efforts, living seps still suck compared to their amazing droid counterparts. This is the flavor of their faction yes, but it would be nice to open up some more option for them with commander made to boost them, example:

Sev'rance Tann (Reference Galactic Battle grounds, use Mistyrl shadow guard as RM)
43, HP 120, Def 20, Atk 13, Dmg 20
SA
Unique
Melee Attack
Double Attack
Taunt (at the start of this characters turn you may move one enemy character within 6 squares adjacent to this character, that character has -4 defense until the end of the round, save 11)
Separatist reinforcements 20
Relay Orders
Force 4
Lightsaber deflect
Sith Rage

CE

Living Separatist non-unique allies count as droids for the purpose of commander effects

Separatist droid followers get an additional +4 attack when combining fire


General_Grievous
Posted: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:55:47 PM
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Other then my dear Separatists, some other groups/miniatures

FRINGE

Peace Brigade (either a new Nom, or one of the many other peace brigade heads, give them access to razor bugs, thud bugs, or some other vong tech)

Felucians (a chieftan that gives out force renewal and force bubble would be an excellent fit to flesh out their three man mini faction)

Ewoks (Simon the ewok? No just some boost for these long forgotten teddy bear meat shields)

Dejeriks (as a whole are just missing something)

Pirates (A new Nym to boost them up properly, especially with so many potential pirate-like SA already out there, reference merciless, bloodthirsty, backlash, ambush, indiscriminate and so on)

Bounty Hunters (not the awesome unique Fett/Bane, but the other lesser uniques, as well as some of the less then good non-unique bounty hunters request a new hutt, perhaps Durga or Ziro?)

Rodians, Gammoreans, Utapauns, and any of the lesser species could use a specific species-flavored pick me up

SITH

Sith Droids Especially the Krath War Droid (with only one commander to boost them, they are slipping from playability despite their large role in the early sith armies)

Massassi (How a bout a Ludo Kresh using the Naga Sadow piece? Give them some twisted sith ability)

OLD REPUBLIC
Unique melee jedi, they are all very bland and a Master Vandar yoda figure to give them a powerful specific boost their force abilities would be nice

SEPARATIST
Make sideous hologram a sep piece that gives out renewal, this is long overdue since the initial oversight in Clone Wars set.

REPUBLIC
Please no more, just stop haha
Alright fine the wookies, mon calamari and Naboo would like some help, but don't stack the clones at all with those new SAs and CEs

IMPERIAL
Reborn (A Dessan piece to give them force renewal and parry?)

Nightsisters (After witnessing the clone wars take on them there is more then enough interesting ways to bring back this piece, force cloak, and a new force debris field or force net which is able to damage even Vong Characters like in the NJO books)

REBEL

That useless turret piece, that's goal is to sit in the open and die, perhaps an overwatch type ability that replaces it's turn and allows it to shoot once a round at an enemy that moves withing line of sight regardless of stealth/cloaked.

NEW REPUBLIC
Luke Skywalkers living, so overcosted and yet such a necessity for their faction, how about a new Mara with rapport 50 for a living NR Luke?

A way to boost living unique commanders (maybe a Kenth Hammner piece that gives them a force power or parry/syngery?

VONG

Just keep doing what your doing, it's good.
coffeebean
Posted: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:04:50 PM
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wampa, this guy has been my favorite savage since RS. rampaging wampa was ok, but to much of a glass cannon for me.
i want one like this

Wampa Hoth Creature 20

Hitpoints 90
Defense 15
Attack +12
Damage 10

Special Abilities

Melee Attack
Triple Attack
Rend +30
Stealth
Savage
Stable Footing
Indgenous Creature (set up anywhere on your side of the map)
Darthbane53
Posted: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:05:33 PM
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General_Grievous wrote:
Other then my dear Separatists, some other groups/miniatures

FRINGE

Peace Brigade (either a new Nom, or one of the many other peace brigade heads, give them access to razor bugs, thud bugs, or some other vong tech)

Felucians (a chieftan that gives out force renewal and force bubble would be an excellent fit to flesh out their three man mini faction)

Ewoks (Simon the ewok? No just some boost for these long forgotten teddy bear meat shields)

Dejeriks (as a whole are just missing something)

Pirates (A new Nym to boost them up properly, especially with so many potential pirate-like SA already out there, reference merciless, bloodthirsty, backlash, ambush, indiscriminate and so on)

Bounty Hunters (not the awesome unique Fett/Bane, but the other lesser uniques, as well as some of the less then good non-unique bounty hunters request a new hutt, perhaps Durga or Ziro?)

Rodians, Gammoreans, Utapauns, and any of the lesser species could use a specific species-flavored pick me up

SITH

Sith Droids Especially the Krath War Droid (with only one commander to boost them, they are slipping from playability despite their large role in the early sith armies)

Massassi (How a bout a Ludo Kresh using the Naga Sadow piece? Give them some twisted sith ability)

OLD REPUBLIC
Unique melee jedi, they are all very bland and a Master Vandar yoda figure to give them a powerful specific boost their force abilities would be nice

SEPARATIST
Make sideous hologram a sep piece that gives out renewal, this is long overdue since the initial oversight in Clone Wars set.

REPUBLIC
Please no more, just stop haha
Alright fine the wookies, mon calamari and Naboo would like some help, but don't stack the clones at all with those new SAs and CEs

IMPERIAL
Reborn (A Dessan piece to give them force renewal and parry?)

Nightsisters (After witnessing the clone wars take on them there is more then enough interesting ways to bring back this piece, force cloak, and a new force debris field or force net which is able to damage even Vong Characters like in the NJO books)

REBEL

That useless turret piece, that's goal is to sit in the open and die, perhaps an overwatch type ability that replaces it's turn and allows it to shoot once a round at an enemy that moves withing line of sight regardless of stealth/cloaked.

NEW REPUBLIC
Luke Skywalkers living, so overcosted and yet such a necessity for their faction, how about a new Mara with rapport 50 for a living NR Luke?

A way to boost living unique commanders (maybe a Kenth Hammner piece that gives them a force power or parry/syngery?

VONG

Just keep doing what your doing, it's good.


Well, all I can say is one of thoes things will be there in the next V-set ThumbsUp
gwek
Posted: Thursday, August 4, 2011 12:37:57 PM
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I'm going to cast my vote for the Old Republic Recruit. Cool sculpt, but stat-wise, it's garbage. Even if you need a 5-point Old Republic filler piece (for some insane reason!), the Old Republic Guard is the same cost, but has a better Defense and counts as an Old Rep Soldier, which makes the OR Guard subject to more commander effects.

There is no reason to play this piece EVER. The only thing that would make the OR Recruit playable is an ability that does +10 vs Soldiers. No, wait, even that wouldn't matter, since the pieces in question only have 10 HP...
Galactic Funk
Posted: Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:43:25 PM
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Ok so he's not the "worst fig" in the game and he may not even be the worst Luke Skywaker but he's the worst Luke I own.

Luke Skywalker, Hero of Yavin. Yuck.

With only a 16 defense and 60 HP's to work with he's not going to last long even if he's getting Evade from Riekkan. If he was a great attacker that would be an acceptable tradeoff and could find use in the right situation but that's not the case. Double and Twin are great. Adding Deadly and Flurry Attack create awesome potential but his measly 8 attack undercuts the whole thing. Particularly at a cost of 35.

I like the idea of a shooty Luke for variety but I just don't see a compelling reason to use this one given his stats. I know it's prob supposed to be representative of a certain time in his life or whatever but this is still Luke Skywalker we are talking about here.
General_Grievous
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:55:03 AM
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Darthbane53 wrote:


Well, all I can say is one of thoes things will be there in the next V-set ThumbsUp


Interesting and what might that be? Ah to early to tell perhaps.
Well some more forgotten friends:

Swoop gang pieces. The dark hellions were a cool idea but needed something more, bravado perhaps? Or a new hired gun ability (counts as being any faction for the purpose of commander effects)

Gonk Droids, there is untapped cool potential for an update of these old guys or you could turn them into separatist infiltrator Droids, hello self destruct 80...

B'mor monks and sly more with the dominate or lack of dominating to be specific.

Fringe unique bounty hunters getting updates (greedo, calo nord, etc...)

Tie crawler to a tie fighter perhaps?

Separatist huges, all of them but especially vulture Droid

Some of the sith uniques such as Nihilus, Sadow, Cadeus would enjoy a more skilled vset designer touch

The old Grievous's (CS you could make into NK1 Necrosis, wheelbike needs to be able to trample or at lead momentum, maybe some sort of new crushing Assualt as a twist where you run over pieces, great for mouse disposal, JH is personally begging to be the next epic separatist piece)

Actually on that note how about a new kaleesh grievous to spread the pain, an epic sniper with a powerful CE like he was meant to be.

Jango Fett and young boba Fett



Squid89
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:40:57 PM
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Huge Separatist droid pieces are very hampered by size, cost, HP and pale compared to their smaller-based options.

A Fringe piece with Empathy that has more than 10HP would help the savages - overall they are good pieces, but the Savage SA hurts them too much.
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:29:53 PM
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Galactic Funk wrote:
Ok so he's not the "worst fig" in the game and he may not even be the worst Luke Skywaker but he's the worst Luke I own.

Luke Skywalker, Hero of Yavin. Yuck.

With only a 16 defense and 60 HP's to work with he's not going to last long even if he's getting Evade from Riekkan. If he was a great attacker that would be an acceptable tradeoff and could find use in the right situation but that's not the case. Double and Twin are great. Adding Deadly and Flurry Attack create awesome potential but his measly 8 attack undercuts the whole thing. Particularly at a cost of 35.

I like the idea of a shooty Luke for variety but I just don't see a compelling reason to use this one given his stats. I know it's prob supposed to be representative of a certain time in his life or whatever but this is still Luke Skywalker we are talking about here.


The last game that I won was with Luke HOY; this was back right when TFU came out I think. Let's not forget that there are also now a few pilot bonuses in R&R. I Like Luke HOY with Princess Leia, Obi FS, and a Med droid or 2-1b. In a Rebel GMA shooter squad, he can be fun. I think I critted on a Twin, then critted on one of the twins from that, then critted on one of those twins. I got a pencil and paper out just to make sure I did the right amount. ThumbsUp

Personally I think that GMA stealth luke from Legacy of the whatever is the least likely to be used.
saber1
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:13:55 PM
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admiralmotti89 wrote:


Personally I think that GMA stealth luke from Legacy of the whatever is the least likely to be used.


It's such a great piece with a cost that makes him unplayable. Shave 8-10 points off the Legacy Luke and I'd run it frequently.
CC-23478
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:37:36 PM
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Isn't a great piece that's overcosted a bad piece?
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