Ok, so as I read more of Inferno Squad's book, I'm becoming more interested in Saw and his Partisan's hence, Saw himself here.

Saw Gerrera, Extremist Rebel I've actually made two Saw's. This one, the "Old" and battleworn Saw and the younger version from the Clone Wars. Collateral Damage is the one new ability that I wonder about. Aiming grenades, Missles, etc that cause damage to adjacent targets is pretty much what I call Collataral Dame as a defiition, but it pretty much goes against direct attacks that our rules say no against, yet as I read the book, it seems Saw's partisans don't have a problem. Not sure what to say but play testing & comments will speack for themselves.







Comments welcome.

Cheers,

surf

thanks for sharing surf!

turning to the initial feedback;
collateral damage... neat.
that would allow counter-nomBomb squads, to initiate a daisy-chain/"domino topple' of self-destructs...
take that, you annoying Vong fans! how do you like your own medicine?

being rebel, that means Kazdan Paratus...
Paratus Mirror Droid Paratus-Zann Consortium "Knockoff droid squads".
"Houston, we have a problem"

K3P0, C3P0, Lobot, this guy, Paratus... 250 and 300 is looking potentially nasty.
just look at those knockoff droids potential Damage output; if there is ever a way for that CE to be made to apply to droids...
the CIS is done-for as a faction hehe.

though, for 'meatbag' rebel squads,
this Saul Gevera combo could lead to nasty deathshot or superstealth rebel commando squads.
superstealth commandos that'll deal... ~90+DMG per shot within 6 squares.
but, the cost offset is, they'll be clustered very tightly, so very vulnerable to direct damage and AreaofEffect abilities...

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awesome work though, Surf,
as, Saul was pretty bad-a$$, looking at a planet being partially winged' by a Deathstar blast
(Dark Helmut: "I said shoot across her nose, not up it!")
and saying "frankly my dear, I don't give a dang. I'm through running".
He was gone with the Deathstar Wind hehe.

I'll be using Saul along with General Kota,
to recreate some "Rise of the Empire" era stuff.
I'll be hoping Kota buys the farm, and then Saul's Prideful kicks in,
to make regular troopers +50DMG stormtrooper killin machines!

I think where it gets weird is things like closest target, so technically your own characters would be the closest target, but only for grenades/missiles sometimes if there is an enemy adjacent but then if all of those things are present then maybe you want to shoot someone instead of a missile and suddenly, yeah... but that's just my thoughts and I could be crazy.

As a counterpoint to myself, when my group was first starting to learn the game way back in the revenge of the Sith days we were targeting our own characters and one player specifically would sacrifice cheap scrubs to base two characters and then lighting them all. So maybe it could work. I'm just playing advocate for rules guys but cool idea all the same.

As a final idea there is the Vader and Shimraa that kills off their own troops to boost everyone's attacks, so that is another angle too

Collataral Damage just seemed to fit what the partisans in the Inferno Squad acted like; any sacrifice was worth it to hurt the enemy, including innocent civilians. So with Damage, as long as an enemy gets hurt, the damage is worth it to Saw's Partisans. Definitely a line drawn between them and the Rebel Alliance/Resistance.

I especially liked how the partisans described the Mothma Rebels as being the type more likely to have tea and invite Palpatine over and ask him to kindly stop hurting people and return the power to the Republic. Even Iden Versio thought, with contempt, they were dumb enough in the way they ran their rebellion ... with only the Death Star's desruction being the one atypical act that surprised both the partisans and the Imps.

While I work on my Rogue One characters, I happened on this pic and came up with this.


PZ-4CO He actually doesn't do much in the Force Awakens, but he's assigned to help Leia and "was a source of tactical data and communications during Resistance operations." I saw that and ran.








Comments always welcome.

Cheers,

surf

@ Koba. Duhh! Fixed Droid misstep.

On another note, my real reason for the post was I was curious about when the Custom Character Contest (CCC) started and it was July. 2013.

On another side note, I saw an old card template post of mine from 2010; the pics are all photobucket tombstones now, but cardmaking was actually a reasonably thriving community with 15-20 people making cards and sharing ideas, templates, cost calculators etc. I seem to be, for the most part, the Last Man Standing (that regularly posts anyway.)

indeed Surf,
that's staying power hehe.
there's not many from WotC still gaming it up as much,
and of customizers, few folks at Bloomilk still make miniatures or custom statcards as much,
though I'm confident it will have a boom time soon.
there are increasingly more folks getting into SWMinis at Boardgamegeek, lead adventure and elsewhere,
so, I'm optimistic folks will continue making custom minis and statcards for a long time to follow.

thanks for the card, the revised PZ-4CO
will probably be part of the core of an "Easy PZ" themed squad I'll test at local hehe.

.... that bad huh?

@surf,
nah, it's not the statcards,
it's real-world gettin' in the way of replying (at least in my case hehe).

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krennic and the deathtroopers/darktrooper are good fun.
the hover tank driver could make some vehicles more playable - skiffs moving at +2 speed, noice.
the TX130 tank or some fringe-faction tanks etc also become interesting.
if there were some way to add some republic vehicles into the empire, they might also become almost useful
(i'm still doing the number crunching on RotS Palps + AT-RT or ATTP etc, + 3 gunners...)

as to the shore-troopers,
maybe having an SA that makes them uber-stealthed while in low-terrain (yellow border objects)
that'd help them stand out.
that said, I do understand the catch22 there, as the Imperials already have a lot of uber-commando type pieces
scout troopers and the like, and I do recall the reflection about the Raxus Prime trooper v regular trooper debate a while back,
so, that one's tricky.

As to krennic, perhaps some rivalry with Tarkin,
or the uber-powerful equivalent of the Sith faction's "thought bomb" -
"single reactor ignition", now, that'd be fun stuff.
Single Reactor Ignition: Replaces Turn; character on target square is defeated, save 11, splash 80, save 11.
something like that would be a +40pts ability, making krennic in the 70pts+ ballpark,
and preventing stuff like Ozzel, Daala or Tarkin, that's just enough to make that not a broken ability

perhaps single-reactor ignition is more of an 'epic krennic' level ability for the mega-games?
it'd then be "trace a line from a board edge, all characters friend and foe alike are defeated, save 16" etc,
though, something like that would be very much broken...

The Charging Assault came from the idea of the Shoretroopers/Walkers rushing in to wipe out the Rogue One commando's (by Krennic's orders.)

I would love to have the Hover Tank guy be 10-11, but his base alone with 50 hp was 11. He's actually 17 and I priced him down to 15; if I'd given him 30 hp, he'd still be 13. The higher hp just reflects him being in an armored vehicule I guess.