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Dimetrodon wrote:Sithborg wrote:If there is a character adjacent, non adjacent figures cannot be legal targets. Cover and adjacency apply as normal. Telekinetic Combat When making an attack on its own turn, this character treats all enemy characters within 6 squares as legal targets. Even if this character can only attack adjacent enemies (due to abilities such as Melee Attack), this character can attack nonadjacent enemies who are within 6 squares. Any attack made against a nonadjacent target will count as a non melee attack for abilities such as Evade or Lightsaber Deflect. Nonmelee attacks ignore abilities that Lightsaber Throw ignores, such as Damage Reduction or Dark Armor. The bolded text would imply that they still CAN be legal target of attacks anyway. But if not.. then why exactly is the bolded part there, if it has nothing to do with anything in the long run except to cause confusion? The rest of the ability describes exactly how it works, so what is the point of telling us characters are legal targets, if they are infact not actually legal most of the time. I understand how the ability works as the designers intend, but it just seems to have an extra piece of text that doesn't really need to be there at all. Where was this text taken from: Telekinetic Combat When making an attack on its own turn, this character treats all enemy characters within 6 squares as legal targets. Even if this character can only attack adjacent enemies (due to abilities such as Melee Attack), this character can attack nonadjacent enemies who are within 6 squares. Any attack made against a nonadjacent target will count as a non melee attack for abilities such as Evade or Lightsaber Deflect. Nonmelee attacks ignore abilities that Lightsaber Throw ignores, such as Damage Reduction or Dark Armor. is that an actual Glossary text for this SA? becasue if so, then this: Even if this character can only attack adjacent enemies (due to abilities such as Melee Attack), this character can attack nonadjacent enemies who are within 6 squares.seems pretty clear on what is a "Legal Target"
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It would have been so easy to just edit the text for LS Throw as needed:
BlooMilk Glossary (Force; 1 Force point) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.
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Mandelmauler wrote:It would have been so easy to just edit the text for LS Throw as needed:
BlooMilk Glossary (Force; 1 Force point) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.
Like this: Telekinetic Combat: this character can make its attacks against enemies within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.
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So what is the official ruling? I can see both Flying Arrow's and Sithborg's points. They're both valid... however, without an official ruling, just reading the definition, it sounds like it ignores the normal targeting rules.
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it still follows the targeting rules. it has been said.
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Dimetrodon wrote:it still follows the targeting rules. it has been said. Thanks
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Just wanted to quickly say that the official Glossary for V-Set 2 has not been released yet. A working version was shown around (which is where the glossary definition listed in this thread came from) but the final definition is not the same (I realized I made a mistake when writing that and it was changed in further definitions). We're working to have the final glossary in an actual image in the next day or two.
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excellent!
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jedispyder wrote:Just wanted to quickly say that the official Glossary for V-Set 2 has not been released yet. A working version was shown around (which is where the glossary definition listed in this thread came from) but the final definition is not the same (I realized I made a mistake when writing that and it was changed in further definitions). We're working to have the final glossary in an actual image in the next day or two. Sounds great!
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Ok, so I'm clear on the rules about adjacency now. Just so I can be Kaiburr crystal clear on the rules about cover, I have a question.
If using Telekinetic Combat to attack a non-adjacent target which has cover, does that character gain the usual defensive bonus as a result of being in cover?
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Yes.
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