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markedman247 wrote:Well, Carrie Fisher's reprisal of Leia might have taken a hit once she had her bi-polar moment on the cruise ship. Oh, haven't heard anything about that. though given her past talk show appearances I think she would be bad for the film anyway, given that its Disney who now owns the franchize.
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dreadtech wrote:markedman247 wrote:Well, Carrie Fisher's reprisal of Leia might have taken a hit once she had her bi-polar moment on the cruise ship. Oh, haven't heard anything about that. though given her past talk show appearances I think she would be bad for the film anyway, given that its Disney who now owns the franchize. Here's the link: http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/26/carrie-fisher-hospitalized-over-bipolar-episode-on-cruise-ship*post edited to remove a bad joke.*
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Thanks for the link, I am sorry to hear/read that she has bi-polar, I know having got friends that have how it, how it can effect people who live with it. Weather or not Disney can afford to or are willing to over look this is a matter for them to decide, but most companies are going to put there franchise and reputation first. Simply because most people do not really understand bi-polar.
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Oh, mm247.  I feel bad for her, though. People will inevitably insist that she was drunk or something. Bipolar's a very serious and sad condition.
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Sithborg wrote:Never happening. They are not going to do a movie trilogy that requires the audience to be read a fairly subpar book series. As is, you will be lucky if any of the novels are still able to say the novels happened.
As much as I liked the NJO and earlier novels, the movies should not be constrained by them. You don't have require reading the books to do a movie that follows after the books. I expect that you're right - they'll do whatever they want to ignore the existing EU, but there's really no reason to contradict any of it. After Fate of the Jedi, the characters are now the age of the actors. They can do whatever they want during that time frame. Just pointing out that following on to Fate of the Jedi could lead to 'film worthy' plots. Abeloth as a huge 'smoke monster' sort of foe. A Jedi Queen as some big royalty. "The Chosen One" taking Anakin's place. And of course the death of the main characters will be big no matter how it happens. Explaining the concept of Abeloth or the concept of the Jedi Queen or "The Chosen One" wouldn't take more than 5 minutes of film time. Nobody would need to read the books.
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corranhorn wrote:Oh, mm247. I feel bad for her, though. People will inevitably insist that she was drunk or something. Bipolar's a very serious and sad condition. If she does them, more than likely there will be constant monitoring of her medications. Her life has been difficult with these issues so I hope for some understanding on her condition.
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FlyingArrow wrote:You don't have require reading the books to do a movie that follows after the books. I expect that you're right - they'll do whatever they want to ignore the existing EU, but there's really no reason to contradict any of it. After Fate of the Jedi, the characters are now the age of the actors. They can do whatever they want during that time frame. Just pointing out that following on to Fate of the Jedi could lead to 'film worthy' plots. Abeloth as a huge 'smoke monster' sort of foe. A Jedi Queen as some big royalty. "The Chosen One" taking Anakin's place. And of course the death of the main characters will be big no matter how it happens. Explaining the concept of Abeloth or the concept of the Jedi Queen or "The Chosen One" wouldn't take more than 5 minutes of film time. Nobody would need to read the books. Again, as you said, you are wrapping up loose ends to, frankly, a sub par book series. That is not the movies role. The movies are the ones that set the stage, not follow the path of the books. I'm not going to lie, the idea of new ideas in SW makes me excited. The PT sadly, was mainly about setting the stage of the OT, which hampered it a bit. Though obviously, Lucas was able to go off of what was expected a bit. I will gladly take a new Skywalker daughter over Ben or any of the Solo kids.
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Sithborg wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:You don't have require reading the books to do a movie that follows after the books. I expect that you're right - they'll do whatever they want to ignore the existing EU, but there's really no reason to contradict any of it. After Fate of the Jedi, the characters are now the age of the actors. They can do whatever they want during that time frame. Just pointing out that following on to Fate of the Jedi could lead to 'film worthy' plots. Abeloth as a huge 'smoke monster' sort of foe. A Jedi Queen as some big royalty. "The Chosen One" taking Anakin's place. And of course the death of the main characters will be big no matter how it happens. Explaining the concept of Abeloth or the concept of the Jedi Queen or "The Chosen One" wouldn't take more than 5 minutes of film time. Nobody would need to read the books. Again, as you said, you are wrapping up loose ends to, frankly, a sub par book series. That is not the movies role. The movies are the ones that set the stage, not follow the path of the books. I didn't find them subpar at all, I thought FotJ was good.
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markedman247 wrote:corranhorn wrote:Oh, mm247. I feel bad for her, though. People will inevitably insist that she was drunk or something. Bipolar's a very serious and sad condition. If she does them, more than likely there will be constant monitoring of her medications. Her life has been difficult with these issues so I hope for some understanding on her condition. So do I. People just want to blame it on her drinking or the like, not bothering to understand what she's going through, and unfortunately becuase of its role as the maker of products Disney has to bow to those sentiments to a certain degree.
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Part of it may be that I stopped at a pretty good stopping point in FOTJ. The fact I have not felt pressed to finish the series sort of means it was subpar to me. I love
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I have enjoyed a lot of the EU books but also feel that to a large part they just keep telling the same story over and over and over again. Jedi turns bad, kills of most the the Jedi and so on and so on.
OK yes history does in fact repeat its self but that does not mean i wish to keep reading it in star wars . I had such high hopes for the Vong invasion books but to find out it was another dark Jedi albeit a Vong one behind it all was probably the biggest disappointment, Even though I did carry on reading SW books after that it seemed to become "who can i kill off" that with each new book I cared less and less and stopped just the book before Mara was killed. Have not read a SW book since.
Like most I think the new films will just ignore the books initially much the same way the Clone Wars cartoon has. Can't say I like that but that is probably what will happen.
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The first half of the NJO was awesome. After Star by Star, it felt as if it lost its way a bit. Part of it was the lack of cohesion on the overall story, which I place the blame on the editors. One of my biggest gripes about LOTF is how 2 of the 9 books just did not belong in the story being presented.
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Sithborg wrote:The first half of the NJO was awesome. After Star by Star, it felt as if it lost its way a bit. Part of it was the lack of cohesion on the overall story, which I place the blame on the editors. One of my biggest gripes about LOTF is how 2 of the 9 books just did not belong in the story being presented. I really didn't like the NJO. (And it had nothing to do with Chewie dying, haha). I thought it seemed to drag on too much, even in the early books. By the end I was just screaming "PULL THE PLUG! END ITS SUFFERING!". I also have some issues with the Vong from a narrative method standpoint.
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corranhorn wrote:Sithborg wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:You don't have require reading the books to do a movie that follows after the books. I expect that you're right - they'll do whatever they want to ignore the existing EU, but there's really no reason to contradict any of it. After Fate of the Jedi, the characters are now the age of the actors. They can do whatever they want during that time frame. Just pointing out that following on to Fate of the Jedi could lead to 'film worthy' plots. Abeloth as a huge 'smoke monster' sort of foe. A Jedi Queen as some big royalty. "The Chosen One" taking Anakin's place. And of course the death of the main characters will be big no matter how it happens. Explaining the concept of Abeloth or the concept of the Jedi Queen or "The Chosen One" wouldn't take more than 5 minutes of film time. Nobody would need to read the books. Again, as you said, you are wrapping up loose ends to, frankly, a sub par book series. That is not the movies role. The movies are the ones that set the stage, not follow the path of the books. I didn't find them subpar at all, I thought FotJ was good. I liked it, too. More importantly, I like remarkable consistency in the Star Wars universe across everything. There are some discrepancies, but nothing egregious and much of it is retconned anyway.
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Sithborg wrote:The first half of the NJO was awesome. After Star by Star, it felt as if it lost its way a bit. Part of it was the lack of cohesion on the overall story, which I place the blame on the editors. One of my biggest gripes about LOTF is how 2 of the 9 books just did not belong in the story being presented. That is partially due to the fact that George Lucas made them kill Anakin Solo because he felt it would be confusing with Anakin Skywalker. Originally Anakin Solo was going to become the next Luke and in TNJO ther was a lot of foreshadowing about that, mostly displayed through what characters said.
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I don't think that they have to have on-screen deaths for the originals. Has anyone watched the Avatar the last Airbender series (not the movie that was terrible)? Well, last year they just made a next generation series (Legend of Korra) and all the original characters accept one are dead. They didn't have on-screen deaths but the story was just placed so far in the future that it made sense that they died naturally. They could have chosen to do this with the sequeal trilogy but I have to admit I do see them going down in a fight.
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