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jak
Posted: Saturday, August 6, 2016 3:32:52 AM
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I'll play next year, when there is 6 players, I'll have a good chance at top 8 then!!Sneaky
spryguy1981
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Squad I had built probably would've been successful. Did Jason play true Skybuck circa 2011, or update it?
gholli69
Posted: Saturday, August 6, 2016 3:42:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was the old school version maybe a few minor tweaks with swap fodder, but the main attackers were yobuck, Gen. Sky, and Dash RS, with panaka to swap them around and r2 astromech to help with mobility.
urbanjedi
Posted: Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:16:40 PM
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2 spaartis were the only vset pieces
TheHutts
Posted: Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:56:51 PM
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urbanjedi wrote:
2 spaartis were the only vset pieces


It's pretty funny that there are people out there bashing the v-sets for being overpowered (like the guy who thinks Mace on AT-RT should cost 200 points), when this year's GenCon final (after six years and eleven v-sets) had one squad with Rebel Storm R2-D2 and Han In Carbonite and one squad which was essentially a WOTC build.
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2016 4:44:33 AM
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TheHutts wrote:
urbanjedi wrote:
2 spaartis were the only vset pieces


It's pretty funny that there are people out there bashing the v-sets for being overpowered (like the guy who thinks Mace on AT-RT should cost 200 points), when this year's GenCon final (after six years and eleven v-sets) had one squad with Rebel Storm R2-D2 and Han In Carbonite and one squad which was essentially a WOTC build.


I get your point, but Trevor's squad contained vset characters that specifically made the WotC pieces playable.

Skybuck was universally considered one of the most broken WotC squads ever.

They both went 2-2 in Swiss.



1 and 2 after Swiss were made from some of the top vset pieces and some of the most broken WotC.


Vong made top 8 x 2. Guess how many WotC pieces those had? Ditto that with the Sith Squad.


Even after the nerf, Daala makes the top 8 AGAIN.


The top 8 was dominated by vset pieces, WotC pieces directly made better by vset pieces, and WotC's most broken pieces ever in the game.

Someone said about my squad " I knew he'd be playing Stealth N Blue!", and while yes it was a MitThrawn swap squad, and only had 3 vset pieces, but those pieces changed the squad intrinsically. My most expensive piece was Palpatine on Throne! Obviously though Pellaeon (vset piece) swapped him out every time for another vset piece.



All this said, mace lightning squad leader at 200 is asinine ignorance.

TheHutts
Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2016 12:57:09 PM
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Successful WOTC squads like Skybuck and Solo Charge are a good benchmark for where to aim the power level of v-set squads though - if they're not as strong as those squads, there's no point making them, as they won't get played. So the fact that Skybuck can still compete is a good sign that the v-sets are getting the power level about right, especially post errata.

I think it's obvious that Vong and Sith squads are going to rely on v-set pieces, since both factions were neglected.

I would argue that a lot of the power in your squad still comes from Thrawn. Pellaeon is also very powerful though, allowing Yslamari and flexibility.

Trevor's squad actually is admittedly very v-set based and my argument was disingenuous. Dodonna is obviously very important, but he's not using other traditional WOTC power pieces like Princess Leia and Rieekan.

Still feels like the meta's in a good place - lots of playable squad types, WOTC builds still relevant.
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2016 1:01:04 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
Successful WOTC squads like Skybuck and Solo Charge are a good benchmark for where to aim the power level of v-set squads though - if they're not as strong as those squads, there's no point making them, as they won't get played. So the fact that Skybuck can still compete is a good sign that the v-sets are getting the power level about right, especially post errata.

I think it's obvious that Vong and Sith squads are going to rely on v-set pieces, since both factions were neglected.

I would argue that a lot of the power in your squad still comes from Thrawn. Pellaeon is also very powerful though, allowing Yslamari and flexibility.

Trevor's squad actually is admittedly very v-set based and my argument was disingenuous. Dodonna is obviously very important, but he's not using other traditional WOTC power pieces like Princess Leia and Rieekan.

Still feels like the meta's in a good place - lots of playable squad types, WOTC builds still relevant.


Agree with everything here.

Thrawn is no doubt both the lynchpin of my squad and one of the best WotC pieces ever.

DarthMaim
Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2016 4:47:56 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
Successful WOTC squads like Skybuck and Solo Charge are a good benchmark for where to aim the power level of v-set squads though - if they're not as strong as those squads, there's no point making them, as they won't get played. So the fact that Skybuck can still compete is a good sign that the v-sets are getting the power level about right, especially post errata.

I think it's obvious that Vong and Sith squads are going to rely on v-set pieces, since both factions were neglected.

I would argue that a lot of the power in your squad still comes from Thrawn. Pellaeon is also very powerful though, allowing Yslamari and flexibility.

Trevor's squad actually is admittedly very v-set based and my argument was disingenuous. Dodonna is obviously very important, but he's not using other traditional WOTC power pieces like Princess Leia and Rieekan.

Still feels like the meta's in a good place - lots of playable squad types, WOTC builds still relevant.


Agree with everything here.

Thrawn is no doubt both the lynchpin of my squad and one of the best WotC pieces ever.



+1.

Where would Thrawn be without Mas? Where's the love for his fellow blue-skinned buddy? BigGrin

I'm just super stoked that Thrawn is now official canon ( Season 3 Rebels ). Definitely one of the coolest SW villain officers ever created!
spryguy1981
Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2016 6:39:17 PM
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I myself had built a VSET version of Skybuck to run before I facked up my knee and had to be out of work for 3 months.
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spryguy1981 wrote:
I myself had built a VSET version of Skybuck to run before I facked up my knee and had to be out of work for 3 months.
That's some major facking. Ouch.
DarthMaim
Posted: Monday, August 8, 2016 10:56:00 AM
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With Rebels now earning their 4th title, I would say that there is no question, they are the top faction in SWM overall, thus far. As General Dodonna, was on each of the 4 championship teams, he is the Rebel MVP, and takes the title as "Best Rebel Commander" and is in the conversation of "Best Overall Commander. Crix and Rieekan are close "Rebel" 2nd's. ThumpUp
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Posted: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:40:31 PM
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What a great time as always at GenCon. Finished 4th after winning a nail-biter against Lou in the 2 vs. 7 matchup. Lost to Trevor in top 4 game as I could never totally finish off the blasted Luke/Leia speeder (20 HP left.) Played Vong after finishing 2nd in Indiana with a different Vong squad. Then I used blast bug Lah's x 8 with poison, cunning, shaper and Nom with battle ready.

This time switched it up and played 7 Lah, shaper, cunning, scarification and charging and double. Pretty good squad overall and as long as hard hitting pieces miss occasionally, I stand a great chance to take them out. Can't wait to play already and check out the set 12 pieces in more detail. Great work all around by LOTS of people that ran countless events and made SWM fun for people who play or perhaps more importantly, have never played. Our area was full of people having a great time and that's all you can really ask for. Final thanks to Jason and James. If it weren't for James' selfless donation of time and resources we wouldn't have any SWM that we so enjoy playing even today. Kudos all.
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:39:03 PM
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DarthMaim wrote:
With Rebels now earning their 4th title, I would say that there is no question, they are the top faction in SWM overall, thus far. As General Dodonna, was on each of the 4 championship teams, he is the Rebel MVP, and takes the title as "Best Rebel Commander" and is in the conversation of "Best Overall Commander. Crix and Rieekan are close "Rebel" 2nd's. ThumpUp
Actually, Bill's championship squad in 2008 didn't have Dodonna; he emphasized that he didn't need Dodonna since it was a squad relying on Cunning Attack for the big 130-dmg top-of-round strike (Han Scoundrel and Leia)...this was when you could still activate 2 characters at the start of a round.

Personally, I found that I used Dodonna's CE about half of the time during my games. There were many times that I needed to move 2 figures together.

And if Dodonna is big, being in 3 of the 4 Rebel championship squads, then Crix is a close second, since he was in both Daniel's and mine. One of the biggest and most helpful things to me throughout the tournament was a strong Disruptive piece with a big Bodyguard...I would've surely lost the final without those 2 critical pieces.
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