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dreadtech
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:44:38 PM
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Thanks, been a long long time since I read Tails of the Jedi so was not sure, Though I thought they were on the side of the republic, with the exception of a few dark side worshipers.
kezzamachine
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Rebel. Beatstick. Luke. The game could not get any better.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:04:48 PM
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saber1 wrote:
That Luke is very interesting. I'm hesitant to say great, though that's where my opinion may end up. Might we see a surge in the use of Obi Unleashed and/or Rebel Troop Cart? Also, Luke HPU might be worth 44 points with Twin and Pilot support. He is the only Luke other than RebCom that will be worth 44 points, IMHO.

If only Luke of Dagobah could get an Atk bonus. *sigh*


Part of the advantage of Versatility is that you can tailor your squad to the opponent. Luke Legacy may not be the preferred option in most builds, but I can definitely see situations where you look at the opponent and say - oh... melee is just not going to work here. I really, really, really need a shooter instead. I can definitely see accurate GMA double/twin shooter being better than a melee beat against some opponents, even if the shooter is overcosted.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:07:28 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Rebel. Beatstick. Luke. The game could not get any better.


I'm hoping for another Rebel with levitation. Yoda?

Also, Les' set breakdown for Vehicles of War from Gamers is interesting - I guess lots of Seps and Republic isn't too surprising, but it'll be interesting to see what factions like Rebel and Vong get:

Quote:
Vehicles of War

Old Repubic
1.

Republic
2.
3.
4.Infantry Support Platform*

Separatists
5.
6.
7.
8.

Rebels
9.

Imperials
10.

Fringe

11. URoRRuR'R'R'R on Bantha*

Yuuzhan Vong
12.
Darthbane53
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:57:42 PM
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I want to star a petition, no more lukes until we get an imperial apprentice luke.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:50:03 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Rebel. Beatstick. Luke. The game could not get any better.


Wrong. It can, and it will. Bomb

Razz
DonStamos
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:15:47 PM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
I want to star a petition, no more lukes until we get an imperial apprentice luke.


+1

And a Clone Emperor to go with him!
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:13:02 AM
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saber1 wrote:

If only Luke of Dagobah could get an Atk bonus. *sigh*


Perhaps a A pretty basic cheap Training Yoda could boost his attack. I'd like that because I like Luke of Dagobah (especially his sculpt) he just isn't very good
adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:19:33 AM
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Not sure how i feel about this luke. I like the piece, but i cant imagine ever swapping him for a lesser value luke. I guess Luke Skywalker, Legacy of the Light Side is really the only good option. The other lukes that you could really benefit from arent really worth paying 15+ points for twin attack for, especially since you're not getting a commander effect like the other versatile characters.

That being said, it im sure we'll get additional options in the future.
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:45:47 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Not sure how i feel about this luke. I like the piece, but i cant imagine ever swapping him for a lesser value luke. I guess Luke Skywalker, Legacy of the Light Side is really the only good option. The other lukes that you could really benefit from arent really worth paying 15+ points for twin attack for, especially since you're not getting a commander effect like the other versatile characters.

That being said, it im sure we'll get additional options in the future.


I agree, I think this Luke is a good piece on his own but the option to bring in another is incredibly nice. I'm excited to see what can be done with him, especially in the future. But Luke Legacy with Twin or even Luke, Rebel Commando with Twin could be very nice. Heck Luke, Hero of Yavin with Djem So might be really interesting.
Ronson
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:03:37 AM
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It's probably not worth it, but it would be amazing to swap this Luke with Rebel Commando and then use Watto and Celeste to give him the bonus attack rating he needs.

It might be fun to use Enraged Wookie in that build too?!
kezzamachine
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 3:48:21 PM
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I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:11:09 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.


Does it work to start without Savage (Empathy from Malakili), step outside the Empathy bubble with GMA, gain Savage for the bonus and unstoppable damage, and then step back inside the Empathy bubble so you aren't forced to run out into the fray?
corranhorn
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:01:05 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.


Does it work to start without Savage (Empathy from Malakili), step outside the Empathy bubble with GMA, gain Savage for the bonus and unstoppable damage, and then step back inside the Empathy bubble so you aren't forced to run out into the fray?


That part could be hard with Savage active.
urbanjedi
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:12:54 PM
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That's one for Scott to come by and answer. I hate savage and shooters.
kezzamachine
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:32:30 PM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
I want to star a petition, no more lukes until we get an imperial apprentice luke.


I won't sign that petition. Mostly because I don't have a pen.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:02:38 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.


Does it work to start without Savage (Empathy from Malakili), step outside the Empathy bubble with GMA, gain Savage for the bonus and unstoppable damage, and then step back inside the Empathy bubble so you aren't forced to run out into the fray?


That part could be hard with Savage active.


If Savage is only checked at the beginning of the move, then it would be legal. I believe that technically, movement is one action that just happens to be interrupted by Mobile Attack or GMA... you aren't starting a new move after the attack, just finishing up the original move.
swinefeld
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:05:54 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.


Does it work to start without Savage (Empathy from Malakili), step outside the Empathy bubble with GMA, gain Savage for the bonus and unstoppable damage, and then step back inside the Empathy bubble so you aren't forced to run out into the fray?


Yes. As long as you can't base an enemy using double speed, you are free to move as you wish.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:22:49 PM
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swinefeld wrote:
Yes. As long as you can't base an enemy using double speed, you are free to move as you wish.


Right. But what if there is an enemy 10 squares away? You start with Empathy, so you don't have to base him. If you move out of the Empathy bubble, can you finish your move as if you don't have Savage since you started your move that way, or do you then have to run up and base the enemy?

Even stranger... suppose you are in the Empathy bubble with an enemy 5 squares away. You go backward away from the enemy outside the Empathy bubble so that you have moved 2 and are 7 squares away from the enemy, but those 7 squares all grant Empathy. Now what? (If Savage is only checked at the beginning of the move, then it doesn't matter... same situation as before.)

According to EmporerDragon, you check Savage at the beginning of the turn: http://www.bloomilk.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7808

It wasn't contradicted, but I haven't found the Nickname or Sithborg response.
saber1
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:44:44 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I want to swap Luke for Legacy, run Celeste, Watto and Malakili, give Luke Savage and then have Legacy Luke sit in the back (stealth!) and accurate shot with GMA, Double and Twin for an unstoppable mass of damage. Boo-freakin'-yah.


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