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The cards came and they look AWESOME! The epic cards remind me of the Green Lantern symbol lol. Heres a few of my thoughts on the Epics:
-Designers did a great job 'suggesting' duos for the 200 cost. The Lah + Lah is an obvious combo, and the Mara + Luke is pretty obvious too (both equaling exactly 200). Didnt really expect Mara to be a shooter, so IMHO along with her Spy SA, she'll have a slight upper edge. In Mass Battles Mara's MS ability will definitely help overcome overriders.
-Terentatek. At first glance didnt look to great, but after realizing how its SAs work together make it pertty tough. For some reason i expected it to have DR10 since all the other characters had damage-reducing abilities.
-Yoda. Holy cow. After seeing his stats my jaw literally dropped. Crazy FPs and a pretty darn good CE to help those old CS jedi.His FS ability is simply amazing paired with Lightsaber defense. However, against Vong i think its safe to say hes screwed.
-Luke. IMHO hes a bit overcosted.Considering he has no Melee defensive powers other than Djem So; he will go down pretty darn quick against any of the other Epics. His MR force power is amazing; but considering it costs 8 FP I dont know if its ever worth it. However; with Yodagobah it might not be too far-fetched. Just IMHO.
These are just a few of my thoughts. I could go on rambling about the other epics but Im sure youd get tired of hearing my opinions. :D GREAT OUTSTANDING EXCELLENT job designers very happy with both the design of the stats and cards.
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Darth Tater wrote:swinefeld wrote: Ritual Scarring (This character ignores special abilities from allies that alter his printed Attack or Damage rating) So Czulkang Lah can't benefit from abilities such as Scarification, but he can still get attack and damage bonuses from CE's, right? Because if he gets Momentum from Tsavong Lah, then he's even MORE epic than before.  It's seems to me, based on wording, that he should benefit from his boy's CE. Ritual Scarring specifies "special abilities from allies". Though the CE grants a special ability (Momentum) it is the CE he is affected by/benefitting from.
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Stats Stats we want stats please would love to see what they all do.
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saber1 wrote:At a glance, Lah looks like the piece to beat. For 200 points he synergizes extremely well with baby Lah. Both have reliable damage reduction with a mountain of hit points, hit targets 90-95% of the time, can punch hard on the move and have force immunity. I wonder who the weak matchup will be for this pair? I was thinking that I would go Luke + Obi Unleashed all the way, but Vader really nerfs that combo. I don't know how well the Lahs would fare against Twin Blaster 20, MotF 3 (effectively, after Obi-wan dies), Impulsive reprisal, flurry, and Use the Force. 3 crits for 50, + 2 more shots for 30 @ +15 sounds good to me. Yoda and Ani of Nelvaan seem like the second most fun combo I can think of, and they are a bit safer than the Luke.
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AdmiralMotti89 wrote:saber1 wrote:At a glance, Lah looks like the piece to beat. For 200 points he synergizes extremely well with baby Lah. Both have reliable damage reduction with a mountain of hit points, hit targets 90-95% of the time, can punch hard on the move and have force immunity. I wonder who the weak matchup will be for this pair? I was thinking that I would go Luke + Obi Unleashed all the way, but Vader really nerfs that combo. I don't know how well the Lahs would fare against Twin Blaster 20, MotF 3 (effectively, after Obi-wan dies), Impulsive reprisal, flurry, and Use the Force. 3 crits for 50, + 2 more shots for 30 @ +15 sounds good to me. Yoda and Ani of Nelvaan seem like the second most fun combo I can think of, and they are a bit safer than the Luke. Yup. Any jedi with Twin paired with Yoda would be deadly. Ani Nelvaan would be a very good choice considering almost all the Epics are melee.
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Deaths_Baine wrote:Stats Stats we want stats please would love to see what they all do. Yes, can we get the rest of the stats, please?
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The Phantom Menace
144
Hp:160
Def: 23
Atk: +16
Dmg: 20
SA
Unique Affinity (seps imps sith)
melee
double
twin
ambush
exicute order 66
tactician +8
The Phantom Menace ( doesnt count as a legal target for enemies further than 6 squears away)
FP
FP 3
FR 2
MOTF 2
Force Leap
Force Lightning 2
Force Lightning 4
Force Withdrawal (force 1, useable only on this characters turn,: until start of this characters next tuen or until he spends a force point he gains force immunity)
Lightsaber defence
Sith rage
CE
Non unique allies w/in 6 gain extra attack
At end of his tun one non unique ally may take an immediate turn. After that turn their defeated.
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Darthbane53 wrote:The Phantom Menace
144
Hp:160
Def: 23
Atk: +16
Dmg: 20
SA
Unique Affinity (seps imps sith)
melee
double
twin
amush
exicute order 66
tactician +8
The Phantom Menace ( doesnt count as a legal target for enemies further than 6 squears away)
FP
FP 3
FR 2
MOTF 2
Force Leap
Force Lightning 2
Force Lightning 4
Force Withdrawal (force 1, useable only on this characters turn,: until start of this characters next tuen or until he spends a force point he gains force immunity)
Lightsaber defence
Sith Grade
CE
Non unique allies w/in 6 gain extra attack
At end of his tun one non unique ally may take an immediate turn. After that turn their defeated. He means "Ambush" and "Sith Rage".   
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I have no clue what your talking about!
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LoL
Theres a horribly punny joke somewhere in this.
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So my nominations for next V-set Epics go to
Mandalore the Indomitable(Mandalorian)
Exar Kun(Sith)
Nomi Sunridder(Old Republic)
Count Dooku(Separatists)
Plo Koon(Republic)
Boba Fett(Fringe)
IG-88A(Fringe)
Han Solo(Rebel)
Jerec(Empire)
Kyle Katarn(New Republic)
Onimi(Yuuzhan Vong)
Vergere(Republic, Sith, Vong)
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Yes, stats. Comments about stats without posting the stats is about as thorough as skiing without the east wind.
What? That didn't make any sense? Welcome to our world. :-)
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plokoon9619 wrote:So my nominations for next V-set Epics go to
Mandalore the Indomitable(Mandalorian)
Exar Kun(Sith)
Nomi Sunridder(Old Republic)
Count Dooku(Separatists)
Plo Koon(Republic)
Boba Fett(Fringe)
IG-88A(Fringe)
Han Solo(Rebel)
Jerec(Empire)
Kyle Katarn(New Republic)
Onimi(Yuuzhan Vong)
Vergere(Republic, Sith, Vong)
If im not mistaken I heard the next epic set is vehicles. Possiably chewie in At-St, AAT and other such.
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Darthbane53 wrote:
If im not mistaken I heard the next epic set is vehicles. Possiably chewie in At-St, AAT and other such.
I nominate... Luke Skywalker in Tauntaun
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Yes post some stats man haha. We're on the edge of our seat here with suspense
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czulking lah
+momentum
+cunning attack
+poison/spit poison 20
+whatever the yammosk steals
= one truly EPIC opponent
how well can other epics be boosted?
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I'll go with my two favorites.
Darth Maul, Shadow Hunter 132
HP 160
Def 23
Att 16
Dam 20
Unique
Melee
Double
Twin
Greater Mobile
Intimidation: Living non-unique enemies within 6 get -2 attack and -2 defense. Living allies within 6 squares get +2 att and +2 def.
Juyo Style Mastery: Crits on 17-20. Whenever this character scores a critical hit, make a save of 11. On a success this character can make 1 immediate attack.
Lightsaber Duelist
Loner
FORCE
Force 2
Renewal 1
Motf 2
Force Cloak
Block
Riposte
Sith Rage
Luke Skywalker, First of the New Order 154
HP 160
Def 21
Att +14
Dam 20
Unique
Pilot
Melee
Triple
Djem So Style
First of the new order (At the start of skirmish, choose 1 unique living ally. that ally gains force 1 and LS Deflect, and is considered to have a force rating for the rest of the skirmish. While within 6 squares of this character, that ally gains +4 att and +10 dam)
Flurry
Impulsive Reprisal
Twin Blaster 20 (1 target, nonmelee, 2 attacks at +11 for 20)
FORCE
Force 2
Renewal 2
MOTF 2
Absorb
LS Deflect
LS Sweep
Master Recovery: Force 8, Replaces turn, Remove all damage from this character
Surprise Move
Use the Force
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Both of those characters are awesome! People complained about Luke but he doesn't look bad at all, and Maul stands alone pretty good. Not sure who I wouuld put with Maul...the new Dooku might be a fun choice
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The best character for the Epic Duos format is Czulkang Lah, by far. If luck turns on you, you can lose to Mace or Vader, and Bane can be a handful, but Czulkang has the upper hand. What Vader has going for him is the fact that he can use Overwhelming Force 2 on Czulkang (which I wholeheartedly believe is wrong) and Czulkang doesn't get his crab armor or Counterattack. Mace can drop a lot of damage on Czulkang, but if you make your Counterattack saves, he's toast and won't even make it to his triple or quadruple attack with Mace not getting to use Riposte.
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Demosthenes wrote:What Vader has going for him is the fact that he can use Overwhelming Force 2 on Czulkang (which I wholeheartedly believe is wrong) and Czulkang doesn't get his crab armor or Counterattack. I wholeheartedly agree with you. It doesn't make much sense conceptually, nor does it feel in line with Wizard's treatment of the YV faction. This is from the perspective of a SWM player whose YV pieces have never seen a skirmish.
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