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Deathwielded wrote:We always wanted a Young Ani and now we got our wish! We can all agree that Renewal, Intuition, Repair and Pilot definitely belong on him, plus Evade and use the force are great! Destiny of the Force is strong, but not overly so since it only works on your characters attacks, not saves additionally you must keep little Ani in harms way for it to be effective (Evade is his defense, but if he has to stay within 6 from the enemy, they can just base him and attack) Good stats, cool abilities. I could see him used in my Straight to the heart of the Matter with Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side and the Chagrian Mercenary Com Note Destiny of the Force only works on missed attacks so therefore probably not the best use since Mace and Obi-Wan will hit almost every time.
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If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way.
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markedman247 wrote:Deathwielded wrote:harryg wrote:Could someone post stats here please? Amen! I haven't had any luck finding were they are posted. (SWMgamers? I couldn't find it on there) Account. Make account. Forum. Go to forum. Click. Click Upcoming sets and spoilers (not viewable without account). So that's how I finally found it. I wasn't logged in initially and had given up. Logged in to post in a thread then suddenly found it on my last check before leaving the site. Now I know for next time.
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adamb0nd wrote:If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way.
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adamb0nd wrote:If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way. I understand the reasoning but that isn't much wiggle room. What's left? Lord Anakin Vader?
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saber1 wrote:adamb0nd wrote:If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way. I understand the reasoning but that isn't much wiggle room. What's left? Lord Anakin Vader? Well, the upcoming "Master Vader" might be affected. ;) J/K
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saber1 wrote:adamb0nd wrote:If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way. I understand the reasoning but that isn't much wiggle room. What's left? Lord Anakin Vader? You can always go Lord Vader, Adjective instead of Darth Vader, Adjective.
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AndyHatton wrote:saber1 wrote:adamb0nd wrote:If they had done "Counts as", it would have effected every possible vader/anakin that has yet to be released, and thus would cause all new renditions of the character to have to build around Shmi, factoring in Sith Rage and MoTF2 into all costs.
With the current wording, they can avoid this simply by choosing a name carefully. It gives wiggle room in the design phase.
Not sure if this is THE reasoning, but it certainly is beneficial if they hadn't planned it this way. I understand the reasoning but that isn't much wiggle room. What's left? Lord Anakin Vader? You can always go Lord Vader, Adjective instead of Darth Vader, Adjective. Mr. Vader Sky Guy Little Orphan Ani
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Or perhaps "The Hero With No Fear" as he was referred to in the Clone Wars.
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TimmerB123 wrote:Deathwielded wrote:We always wanted a Young Ani and now we got our wish! We can all agree that Renewal, Intuition, Repair and Pilot definitely belong on him, plus Evade and use the force are great! Destiny of the Force is strong, but not overly so since it only works on your characters attacks, not saves additionally you must keep little Ani in harms way for it to be effective (Evade is his defense, but if he has to stay within 6 from the enemy, they can just base him and attack) Good stats, cool abilities. I could see him used in my Straight to the heart of the Matter with Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side and the Chagrian Mercenary Com Note Destiny of the Force only works on missed attacks so therefore probably not the best use since Mace and Obi-Wan will hit almost every time. Thanks for that! I was wondering why such a low costing piece had such a great Force power (two if you count Use the Force) it's good, but not game changing.
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theultrastar wrote:Or perhaps "The Hero With No Fear" as he was referred to in the Clone Wars. Sounds good, plus he could be the big beatstick anakin many have been aching for. (I think General Skywalker is pretty close) I made that kind of version with that subname a couple months ago in the Customs section.
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A couple things I recently realized: 1 the new Darth Maul is the 1st maul with Renewal (Funny how they give him renewal AFTER he lost half his body) and 2 that the new BHC Dooku will wipe the floor with the new BHC Yoda since Makashi Style Mastery beats Ataru Style Mastery.
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The previews from last night's SHNN:
#51/60 Ghes Orade
Mandalorian
RM: Bossk
26 points
60 hp, 18 def, +10 attack, 20 damage
Unique, Mandalorian Protector, Bodyguard, [I didn't catch one here, but it was maybe Berskerga'am], Mobile Attack, Protective +10 (wounded ally Mirta Gev within 6 squares), Sniper
#13/60 Sorceror Acolyte
Sith
RM: Jedi Guardian
17 points
60 hp, 18 def, +8 attack, 20 damage
Melee, Stealth
Force Powers: 1 FP, Force Renewal 1, Force Fog (2 FP, usable on turn, until start of next turn gains following Force Ability, cannot be targeted by enemies more than 6 squares away, adjacent allies are treated as having cover, adjacent non-unique allies gain Stealth), Illusion, Sith Spell (1 FP, adjacent enemies are activated, save 11).
That Acolyte looks really good....
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The Acolyte is one of the best Vset pieces that I have seen in a long time. Very well designed.
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theultrastar wrote:The Acolyte is one of the best Vset pieces that I have seen in a long time. Very well designed. Thanks. Definitely a collaborative effort. Force Fog had a lot of little tweaks to where it ended up. I'll be interested to see how people use him.
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Wow. Agreed on the Sith Acolyte. Looks fantastic!
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Galactic Funk wrote:Wow. Agreed on the Sith Acolyte. Looks fantastic! +1 He will be a good piece to protect your Beatsticks while you move them within range. Then when close enough he can cause your opponent problems by activating their characters. Ghes Orade looks pretty awesome too.
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saber1 wrote:Mother's Sacrifice, who gets eliminated by the wording other than Lord Vader? I can't figure out why "ally who counts as Anakin Skywalker" wasn't used. Mainly because the designer get tired of fighting me? lol Seriously, how "Unique" and "counts as" work in this game is terrible. The main issue is that the rules use way, way too much "common sense" for it to work. I mean really, you have to remember what a title is (which causes confusion with Mandalore) and other logical leaps. It would be different if you had a name, and then either a title or descriptor, like what is found in many card games. But we don't have that. And while most think that such things aren't bad, it is terrible when you have to have the rules written out. How many characters have received errata to "counts as" a character. I know many Vset cards needed that errata.
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I think this happened because once he became Lord Vader, Shmi stopped being his mother. Which perfectly explains why Lord Vader doesn't work with her. I'm on board!
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