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General_Grievous wrote:So pumped to use this new Vong with some Voxyn Queens and perhaps Zuckuss. Spam some reinforcements haha throw in lobot CLO and you have a party there lol.
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AndyHatton wrote:TimmerB123 wrote:swinefeld wrote:I just wish Pathfinder covered low objects as well as difficult terrain. I thought that it was ruled that it covers both. If not - that really is stupid. I thought that too, I always thought it was just spreadable Stable Footing... but from the FAQ Pathfinder Q: Does Pathfinder affect low objects also? A: No. That is kinda dumb. Exactly. So silly. I guess I was thinking of stable footing as well. Guess we need an "advanced Pathfinder" that covers low objects too.
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countrydude82487 wrote:General_Grievous wrote:So pumped to use this new Vong with some Voxyn Queens and perhaps Zuckuss. Spam some reinforcements haha throw in lobot CLO and you have a party there lol. Hahahah good call, I usually bring him for other reserves teams as its my favourite style to play, but forgot that works excellent here too
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So it seems that Darth_Jim forgot to take his lightsaber to work today and lost part of his calf to a pitbull. Luckily Jim was able to make it to a hospital and make a save to heal the 20 damage he had just taken. Seriously though, Jim did get chewed on by a dog and is ok. That was the reason there was no Sith Holo News Network tonight and thus no spoiler.
But have no fear...i have the power to giver you a spoiler.
3/12 General Obi-Wan Kenobi on Boga -Huge base cost 55 HP 180 DEF 21 ATK +14 DAM 20 Unique. Melee Attack; Double Attack; Speed 8 Galloping Attack [As this character moves, he can attack each adjacent enemy, +4 Attack; this turn, this character cannot attack any enemy twice and cannot move directly back into a space he has just left. This ability is usable only on this character's turn.] Stable Footing [Not slowed by difficult terrain or low objects] Stealth [If this character has cover, he does not count as the nearest enemy for an attacker farther than 6 squares when choosing targets] Wall Climber [This character ignores difficult terrain, enemy characters, low objects, and pits when moving as long as a square he occupies and a square he is moving into are adjacent to a wall] Force 2. Force Renewal 1 Lightsaber Assault [Force 1, replaces attacks: Make 2 attacks] Lightsaber Defense [Force 1: When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11] Lightsaber Precision 2 [Force 2: +20 Damage on next attack] CE: Followers with Order 66 gain Mobile Attack [Can move both before and after attacking] and Stealth.
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Looks fun - Galloping Attack + Lightsaber Assault is pretty cool.
Obviously it's hampered by being Huge Base - otherwise it would be an upgraded Yobuck, which probably isn't necessary.
Do you guys think it's good enough to be competitive?
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He has a lot of HP which is great, I just thought his CE was ok until I saw it also gave Clones Stealth, that is pretty great. I think Galloping Attack and LSA is a cool combo...Stealth on a Huge is interesting and the fact that hindering terrain won't slow him down is great for a Huge. I don't know...I like him, and he may really help out some Clone Squads. Though I feel like Mobile Attack is a bit wasted since clone squads will probably still run either Queen Amidala for Rapport/Mobile Attack or Rex because he is Rex.
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With Wall Climber won't the Gowkmobile be able to Gallop without giving up AOO's if you get your wall adjacency requirements? I'm sure it will be tougher to pull off with a huge base but I would prefer for characters to not be able to use such a powerful ability like Galloping w/o reprisal.
EDIT: The wall climber - no AOO thing is probably pretty situational the more I think about it. Essentially getting a triple attack on the move w/ a gallop and 2 from LA is pretty strong. Once he gets into the thick of things he's going to be the big target though.
Most importantly though I hope Darth Jim is doing ok and has a swift recovery!
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Obi on Boga is an interesting character I think. As everyone has pointed out, being a Huge base is a, well, huge problem. Yeah, you can Lightsaber Assault with the Gallop, but when you're only moving 8 squares is could be very hard to find a place to end your move. Stable Footing and Wall Climber both help a lot (he would almost definitely be completely unplayable without those), and Stealth can help make him less of a target, but I still don't expect him to be tearing up the top tables. One of his major problems is he just doesn't synergize very well with the rest of the faction.
That said, I actually do like him a lot for a tier 2 piece. I think he's very flavorful with the Stealth ability and CE: He was able to sneak right up to Grievous even when there were a ton of droids around, and nobody even noticed him until he revealed himself, and then the Clones were able to come in with a surprise attack because the droids had no idea they were there. He's definitely a serious upgrade to the original Obi on Boga, which is now a useless piece (and was honestly pretty useless when it came out, too).
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Echo24 wrote:Obi on Boga is an interesting character I think. As everyone has pointed out, being a Huge base is a, well, huge problem. Yeah, you can Lightsaber Assault with the Gallop, but when you're only moving 8 squares is could be very hard to find a place to end your move. Stable Footing and Wall Climber both help a lot (he would almost definitely be completely unplayable without those), and Stealth can help make him less of a target, but I still don't expect him to be tearing up the top tables. One of his major problems is he just doesn't synergize very well with the rest of the faction.
That said, I actually do like him a lot for a tier 2 piece. I think he's very flavorful with the Stealth ability and CE: He was able to sneak right up to Grievous even when there were a ton of droids around, and nobody even noticed him until he revealed himself, and then the Clones were able to come in with a surprise attack because the droids had no idea they were there. He's definitely a serious upgrade to the original Obi on Boga, which is now a useless piece (and was honestly pretty useless when it came out, too). One area that he does synergy very well with though is making it so you can get superstealth on all Order 66 followers when you bring in an old commander by the name of Bacarra into your squad. I love how Obi on Boga is going to make clone trooper squads viable again, and I can't wait to see what cool squads I can come up with giving clones superstealth. I think it'd be fun to gave some gelagrupbs, panaka swap and the clone trooper on speeder going all around the map. Clone trooper with Repeating blaster with superstealth? Yes please! Or how about the old Commander Gree that makes it so Order 66 followers with Mobile Attach don't take attacks of opportunity and can move 2 squares after they finish their move. Old version of Agile anyone? For 18 points, it can definely make for some interesting squads. Awesome piece and I am looking forward to playing it. He's a very well made mini and does a lot for the clone troopers.
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Mando wrote:One area that he does synergy very well with though is making it so you can get superstealth on all Order 66 followers when you bring in an old commander by the name of Bacarra into your squad. I love how Obi on Boga is going to make clone trooper squads viable again, and I can't wait to see what cool squads I can come up with giving clones superstealth. I think it'd be fun to gave some gelagrupbs, panaka swap and the clone trooper on speeder going all around the map. Clone trooper with Repeating blaster with superstealth? Yes please! Or how about the old Commander Gree that makes it so Order 66 followers with Mobile Attach don't take attacks of opportunity and can move 2 squares after they finish their move. Old version of Agile anyone? For 18 points, it can definely make for some interesting squads. Awesome piece and I am looking forward to playing it. He's a very well made mini and does a lot for the clone troopers. Don't forget, Panaka isn't like Thrawn, he can only swap medium bases. I was trying to build something with him this morning and I think the problem is clones might just be too expensive. After you get the "necessary" components in there you don't have have much room left for a lot to benefit from it. Rex, GOWK on Boga, Yularen and Bacara are 132. After that you can only fit 2 Clones with Reapeaters, with 22 points left over for tech, 17 of which will probably go to Mas and R2...I tried to make ARC Trooper Snipers with similar issues after I added Cap Ordo. Now granted, Bacara may not be neseccary and that gives you a good amount of wiggle room, so maybe trying to give al Clones Super Stealthy isn't the way to go. Galactic Funk wrote: Most importantly though I hope Darth Jim is doing ok and has a swift recovery!
Indeed!
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AndyHatton wrote:
Don't forget, Panaka isn't like Thrawn, he can only swap medium bases.
I was trying to build something with him this morning and I think the problem is clones might just be too expensive. After you get the "necessary" components in there you don't have have much room left for a lot to benefit from it. Rex, GOWK on Boga, Yularen and Bacara are 132. After that you can only fit 2 Clones with Reapeaters, with 22 points left over for tech, 17 of which will probably go to Mas and R2...I tried to make ARC Trooper Snipers with similar issues after I added Cap Ordo. Now granted, Bacara may not be neseccary and that gives you a good amount of wiggle room, so maybe trying to give al Clones Super Stealthy isn't the way to go.
Good point. I don't think you even need to have Mas in a squad with Baccara and Obi on Boga to get your CE's to work boardwide, since they are already rangeless. Rex's CE isn't really necessary either as your guys already have mobile through obiwan. In a squad, I'd probably only put 1 repeater trooper in to swap around. Even though you can't swap the clone trooper on speeder, you can still give him oppotunist, super stealth and also the +10 dmg vs adjacent targets, making it so he fires at +12 for 40 dmg. Not a bad strafer for his cost. Also he gets past the disadvantages that lancers face in that the speeder isn't melee, but instead is ranged. Another cool clone to put in with the new Obi on Boga is the Covert Ops clone trooper, since with stealth you would need to be within 6 squares to fire on him at range if he's in cover and at that point, his Cover Ops Training SA kicks in.
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actually you could swing in General Aayla also. I know it is alot of points but if you buff basic clones, or even Spaarti you can give them superstealth, double, and some attack boosts (Commander gree) it could be a fun build.
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Boga ClonesThis one is not a bad idea either. They are fragile but at least they are cheap and can hit pretty well with a +13 (counting opportunist. )
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Mando wrote: Good point. I don't think you even need to have Mas in a squad with Baccara and Obi on Boga to get your CE's to work boardwide, since they are already rangeless. Rex's CE isn't really necessary either as your guys already have mobile through obiwan. In a squad, I'd probably only put 1 repeater trooper in to swap around. Even though you can't swap the clone trooper on speeder, you can still give him oppotunist, super stealth and also the +10 dmg vs adjacent targets, making it so he fires at +12 for 40 dmg. Not a bad strafer for his cost. Also he gets past the disadvantages that lancers face in that the speeder isn't melee, but instead is ranged. Another cool clone to put in with the new Obi on Boga is the Covert Ops clone trooper, since with stealth you would need to be within 6 squares to fire on him at range if he's in cover and at that point, his Cover Ops Training SA kicks in. If you are bringing Swap instead of Rex, you need Mas still. The Clone with Repeaters are made of Paper, I really think they need GMA to keep them safe even with Super Stealth. And Rex is such a great shooter, it is hard to pass him up. Clone Troopers on Speeders, now those I did not think of and that could be interesting, quick strike Squad for Clones, Obi-Wan leading the charge with his Army of stealthy Larges. The problems with the Covert Ops is the piece is pricey, and Obi is gonna be moving so fast it might be hard to keep up.
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On SHNN tonight - just my transcription, so might have missed some stuff (including the set number):
Bombad General Jar Jar Binks on Kaadu 29 points 70hp, 18 def, 8 atk, 10 dam Large base, speed 10, unique, melee, gungan, bombad general (like boss nass), distraction, draw fire, galloping attack, momentum Commander Effect - gungans within 6 get + 4 def
Galloping + Distraction rules - unless you're a Poggle Bomb.....
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TheHutts wrote:On SHNN tonight - just my transcription, so might have missed some stuff (including the set number):
Bombad General Jar Jar Binks on Kaadu 29 points 70hp, 18 def, 8 atk, 10 dam Large base, speed 10, unique, melee, gungan, bombad general (like boss nass), distraction, draw fire, galloping attack, momentum Commander Effect - gungans within 6 get + 4 def
Galloping + Distraction rules - unless you're a Poggle Bomb..... I'm loving the new Jar Jar. At least he doesn't have Bombad Gungan again......The CE and his base stats/sa's are really good. I can definetly see him being used. The gungans now have quite the sub-faction. Maybe wessa will see a all gungan squad some day compete in a regional, messa thinks.
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Beware droid armies! Wassa gona booma yousa to death!
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All i can Picture is Jar JAr's war cry, AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYYYEYEYYEYE
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Can anyone confirm full stats and SET NUMBER for Bombad General Jar Jar Binks on Kaadu. I know he is not a "Vehicle" but you never know which set he is in. I new sooner or later we would get another Jar Jar A sad day for vsets and star wars.
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Those stats are all correct, the set number is 2/12, so it is from the subset.
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