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markedman247
Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:40:05 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
Grodin Tierce's Clone Imperial Cost 26
70 H.P.
17 Def
10 Atk
20 Damage

Unique
Double Attack
Imperial Triumvirate (add +2 to you initiative roll except on a 1, this bonus stacks.)
Rival (Can not be in a squad with Palleon or Thrawn)
Tactician +2

C.E.
Non-unique followers get +2 atk and +2 Def.


Imperial Triumverate? Sound like "Flim" is on his way as well. Which, I kind of liked. "Flim" was a fun character.
Just something seems off with the combination of IT and Tactician, as they both function the same unless it is something that you continue to add to initiative for each member of the Imperial Triumverate (which is why "this bonus stacks). So that would mean, if the wording is correct is that you get +2 via Tactician, and +2 per member of the Triumverate. And although I am only speculating wildly here, I get the feeling, once again if the wording is correct, that Thrawn (either or both) are going to be split apart upon the 3 characters of the Triumvrate: Flim (Possible pick a CE from a commander whose name contains "Thrawn"), Grodin (who has part of Grand Admiral CE but 1 less Def/Atk but rangeless), and Moff Disra, which may or may not have some form of damage booster.

Once again, I am only guessing so I am probably completely and utterly wrong.
Sithborg
Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:58:30 PM
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markedman247 wrote:
Deaths_Baine wrote:
Grodin Tierce's Clone Imperial Cost 26
70 H.P.
17 Def
10 Atk
20 Damage

Unique
Double Attack
Imperial Triumvirate (add +2 to you initiative roll except on a 1, this bonus stacks.)
Rival (Can not be in a squad with Palleon or Thrawn)
Tactician +2

C.E.
Non-unique followers get +2 atk and +2 Def.


Imperial Triumverate? Sound like "Flim" is on his way as well. Which, I kind of liked. "Flim" was a fun character.
Just something seems off with the combination of IT and Tactician, as they both function the same unless it is something that you continue to add to initiative for each member of the Imperial Triumverate (which is why "this bonus stacks). So that would mean, if the wording is correct is that you get +2 via Tactician, and +2 per member of the Triumverate. And although I am only speculating wildly here, I get the feeling, once again if the wording is correct, that Thrawn (either or both) are going to be split apart upon the 3 characters of the Triumvrate: Flim (Possible pick a CE from a commander whose name contains "Thrawn"), Grodin (who has part of Grand Admiral CE but 1 less Def/Atk but rangeless), and Moff Disra, which may or may not have some form of damage booster.

Once again, I am only guessing so I am probably completely and utterly wrong.


The Triumvirate is not a Thrawn clone. I think the init bonuses and Tierce's CE are the closest you will get to similar to either Thrawn.
markedman247
Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:11:47 PM
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Sithborg wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Deaths_Baine wrote:
Grodin Tierce's Clone Imperial Cost 26
70 H.P.
17 Def
10 Atk
20 Damage

Unique
Double Attack
Imperial Triumvirate (add +2 to you initiative roll except on a 1, this bonus stacks.)
Rival (Can not be in a squad with Palleon or Thrawn)
Tactician +2

C.E.
Non-unique followers get +2 atk and +2 Def.


Imperial Triumverate? Sound like "Flim" is on his way as well. Which, I kind of liked. "Flim" was a fun character.
Just something seems off with the combination of IT and Tactician, as they both function the same unless it is something that you continue to add to initiative for each member of the Imperial Triumverate (which is why "this bonus stacks). So that would mean, if the wording is correct is that you get +2 via Tactician, and +2 per member of the Triumverate. And although I am only speculating wildly here, I get the feeling, once again if the wording is correct, that Thrawn (either or both) are going to be split apart upon the 3 characters of the Triumvrate: Flim (Possible pick a CE from a commander whose name contains "Thrawn"), Grodin (who has part of Grand Admiral CE but 1 less Def/Atk but rangeless), and Moff Disra, which may or may not have some form of damage booster.

Once again, I am only guessing so I am probably completely and utterly wrong.


The Triumvirate is not a Thrawn clone. I think the init bonuses and Tierce's CE are the closest you will get to similar to either Thrawn.


Tierce was the strategist of the group so that makes sense.
"Flim," if in this set, would have to be a cheap piece that draws attention. Whether that's draw fire or another ability, I am merely speculating.
Disra would be the one that I find intriguing. He was the sneaky little one of the group. Internal strife due to his propensity to betray. Possible reinforcement generator? I don't know. I am just spit balling here.
Hinkbert
Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:59:07 PM
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Hmmm, the first Imp preview has triumvirate and there just happen to be 3 Imp pieces in this set. Me thinks Flim and Disra are forthcoming.
Azman
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:42:18 AM
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Hinkbert wrote:
Hmmm, the first Imp preview has triumvirate and there just happen to be 3 Imp pieces in this set. Me thinks Flimsy and Disra are forthcoming.


Disra
adamb0nd
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:42:34 PM
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Reminds me of oom-9
komix
Posted: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:47:31 PM
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Being a Imp player I like this piece, but I don't at all get why we get Rival on him. It certainly wasn't in playtests I made.
Clone of Tierce replaced his orignal and killed Rukh (Thrawn's killer) while serving UNDER THRAWN.I get why rival for Palleon- he tried to kill the man in the end.
Or is it just the tool to some higher means?
Hinkbert wrote:
Hmmm, the first Imp preview has triumvirate and there just happen to be 3 Imp pieces in this set. Me thinks Flim and Disra are forthcoming.

Who knows? :) I can neither confirm nor deny it :D
Sithborg
Posted: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:33:18 PM
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komix wrote:
Being a Imp player I like this piece, but I don't at all get why we get Rival on him. It certainly wasn't in playtests I made.
Clone of Tierce replaced his orignal and killed Rukh (Thrawn's killer) while serving UNDER THRAWN.I get why rival for Palleon- he tried to kill the man in the end.
Or is it just the tool to some higher means?
Hinkbert wrote:
Hmmm, the first Imp preview has triumvirate and there just happen to be 3 Imp pieces in this set. Me thinks Flim and Disra are forthcoming.

Who knows? :) I can neither confirm nor deny it :D


Not looking at the conversations at the moment, I think it can be a bit easy to figure out.

1. There were issues with the Thrawn/Pelleon interactions.
2. They wanted to get Imps away from reliance on Thrawn and Pelleon, who are pretty much mainstays now.
3. The Triumvirate was trying to impersonate Thrawn, so obviously they never actually worked with him.
adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:33:28 AM
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1. There were issues with the Thrawn/Pelleon interactions.

Clarify?
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:04:07 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
1. There were issues with the Thrawn/Pelleon interactions.

Clarify?


Like I said, I wasn't looking at the conversations. It is entirely possible that they were working in ways they did not like, if not necessarily overpowered.
Bob Chizo
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:44:30 AM
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Does anyone know what the RM is?
Uggie Demo
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:19:06 AM
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Shouldn't there be new previews?
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:04:38 AM
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I don't know if they had any previews for Chicago or not. Considering who was there, they might not have, since most probably already saw the minis.
Echo24
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:07:53 AM
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The previews from Atlanta (Tierce's Clone and the Padawan) were the same ones that were set to be revealed in Chicago.
Boris
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:48:14 AM
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Flim and Disra are obviously in this set as well. The addition of Rival happened early on in the process, but before the current versions of the cards were completed. it was decided to leave that ability on for flavor purposes. (Yes, that means that if you run the Triumvirate you will be able to do some pretty cool things but you will have to leave your Thrawns and Pelleaons in the box.) That's really all I should say about it.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:59:39 PM
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It's going to be complicated using proxy minis for Tierce's Clone, Flim, and Disra - I imagine they all look like middle-aged guys with uniforms, so it'll be hard to tell them apart.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:41:13 PM
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Based on current info, I'll speculate as to the set list breakdown:

5 OR #1-5

5 Sith #6-10

5 Republic #11-15

3 Seps #16-18

5 Rebel #19-23

3 Imps #24-26

5 NR #27-31

confirmed position

18 Fringe #32-49

5 Mandos #50-54

5 Vong #55-60


It lays out conveniently that way, though there certainly could be more or less than 5 in some of the factions.
Weeks
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:44:36 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
It's going to be complicated using proxy minis for Tierce's Clone, Flim, and Disra - I imagine they all look like middle-aged guys with uniforms, so it'll be hard to tell them apart.


Well form cannon

Tierce is a royal guard and stormtrooper
Disra is an old guy that is a moff
Flim is a dude pretending to be a chiss

You'll be able to tell them apart :)
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:44:46 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
It's going to be complicated using proxy minis for Tierce's Clone, Flim, and Disra - I imagine they all look like middle-aged guys with uniforms, so it'll be hard to tell them apart.


Well, Flim will use IE Thrawn, I would think.
markedman247
Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:26:38 PM
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Weeks wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
It's going to be complicated using proxy minis for Tierce's Clone, Flim, and Disra - I imagine they all look like middle-aged guys with uniforms, so it'll be hard to tell them apart.


Well form cannon

Tierce is a royal guard and stormtrooper
Disra is an old guy that is a moff
Flim is a dude pretending to be a chiss

You'll be able to tell them apart :)


And create a very geek specific joke if they walked into a bar.
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