Ummm, Sidious can lightning for 100 50 top and 50 bottom of a round and move 6.... not really attack dependent...

For everyone that is replying that has not played these pieces (Daniel) play them before you pass judgement on them. You have not even seen them in action in serious games, only at gencon with subpar squads, please don't talk about what you don't know, I have played them and am concerned, get back to me with your games and lets talk this for real.

And here is the heart of my thread, we don't know if Sid even needs act control with parry and evade, heck he might just need to be paired with the anakin chosen one for 27 points for a 110 hitpoint bodyguard, I don't know that is why I asked people to test these pieces out and give feedback, because I think it is a legitimate concern, if no one else does, then just ignore this completely... but if you want to argue with me, the least you can do is test the piece not theories....

Anakin doesn't trigger Sidious's rapport, it is name contains not counts as.

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I haven't really looked at Sidious. I don't like how GMLS was summarily replaced, and for that reason the new Luke is probably my least favorite piece in the Vsets. But we already had another big thread about that principle.

I look at what I see, this is exactly why I started this topic. I have not seen anything get close to killing this Sidious, and after last night that includes Old Republic, and Mando the Vindicated squad, sure sidious only got a 2 point win on the Vindicated but a win nonetheless. As far as luke getting shot to death he has a commander effect that allows adjacent force users to be his bodyguard, so you can actually handle shooter heavy squads simply by letting another piece take the damage and spread it around.
Like I said I don't know the best squads to run with these pieces yet, have not ran them enough to have that narrowed down, but I would think that with a 22 defense lowbacca bodyguarding him with lightsaber defense and MoTF 2 most shooters would be hard pressed to take him down.

What is a bounty hunter challenge piece?

This I agree with, bombs would be great in the hands of a good player against these pieces.

that is awesome, i figured Vong would be awful for him, but I heard the squad using sidious at gencon had him with lord vader, not really the best sidious squad you could make. I just hope Vong get good enough to be viable at a real tournament. From what I have seen, they will be :)

So, just witnessed an interesting match tonight. Bronson had never played against the Sidious, so we made a sub-standard Sidious and placed it against an anti-Sidious squad with Cad Bane, Corran Horn, Klat Capt, and r23po. It was a very good game, but as soon as the NR lost act control, the game was completely over.

So you say all of his weaknesses are a good shooter who can base him (Cad Bane), a good Melee beat (Corran Horn) Act Control, (Dodonna) and out activating him, ( IMps army had 14, NR had 15) AND even had 7 mice to wall off any attempt of Palps to get a good swap. In the end, Palps was STILL to much. At one point he was based by Corran, attacked 3 times, parriede each one successfully, then was able to evade all but 1 attack by Cad Bane! 7 attacks by 2 VERY GOOD ATTACKERS, and only 20 damage to show. All in all, he was attacked about 13/14 times, and only 2 shots by Cad Bane connected.

This piece is extremely tough to bring down with COMPETITIVE squads, and couldn't be beaten even by the best player in our play group ( Ultrastar/Bronson)

When will this madness stop and when can we write these pieces off as awesome/ fun ideas, but not legal for 200 point play?




With Much Love,
Shmi15