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DarkLordVerjal
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:48:45 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
DarkLordVerjal wrote:
I wish Luke had a special ability making him subject to commander effects, since he and his entire Jedi order were subject to the rule of the Galactic Republic.


Then what you need is a Galactic Republic piece (pick one of the good leaders) with a CE that affects commanders.


I have an agenda, and this agenda is to give Luke evade+leia reroll+rp rr x2. YOU'LL NEVER DAMAGE ME!Wink




........Unless you have Vong, in which case GG.Sneaky
AndyHatton
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:02:51 PM
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
DarkLordVerjal wrote:
I wish Luke had a special ability making him subject to commander effects, since he and his entire Jedi order were subject to the rule of the Galactic Republic.


Then what you need is a Galactic Republic piece (pick one of the good leaders) with a CE that affects commanders.


I have an agenda, and this agenda is to give Luke evade+leia reroll+rp rr x2. YOU'LL NEVER DAMAGE ME!Wink




........Unless you have Vong, in which case GG.Sneaky


You can get Luke Evade, though it doesn't come from a Commander Effect (and with Leia it gets very very pricey)

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/125266/gmls-with-evade--nuff-said
AndyHatton
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:17:52 PM
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and shamless plug ThumbsUp

One of my Luke Skywalker customs has an ability that would make him subject to commander effects that only work on followers; Cooperation

http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/12141/luke-skywalker--praxeum-headmaster
corranhorn
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:13:26 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
I'm not a fan of this Luke, but I'm sure most would say it's for a silly reason. I don't like that he basically replaces GMLS. GMLS was an iconic piece from WotC - the highest cost piece by far. Sure - not competitive at all. But I would have rather seen boosts for GMLS than a replacement piece. Oh well.

And also, as someone else mentioned, I'm disappointed because it's a new Luke that's not really a new Luke. It's GMLS2. If anyone deserved a new, defining SA or FP this was it.


I do have to agree with you here. To be fair, this Luke dosen't have man y of GMLS's strengths-no FR1-granting, no base 120 damage, lower stats.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:00:55 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
To be fair, this Luke dosen't have man y of GMLS's strengths-no FR1-granting, no base 120 damage, lower stats.


Huh? He grants force renewal, and he can get up to 120 damage with Cunning (which isn't guaranteed, but he's likely to get to use a big Cunning on something a lot of the time). The defense is lower, but the bodyguard makes up for that to some extent, and the really big advantage over GMLS is that he can do 120 damage on the move at range.
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:17:00 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
corranhorn wrote:
To be fair, this Luke dosen't have man y of GMLS's strengths-no FR1-granting, no base 120 damage, lower stats.


Huh? He grants force renewal, and he can get up to 120 damage with Cunning (which isn't guaranteed, but he's likely to get to use a big Cunning on something a lot of the time). The defense is lower, but the bodyguard makes up for that to some extent, and the really big advantage over GMLS is that he can do 120 damage on the move.


Yeah his CE still grants FR-1. The big difference is not having Triple and the more likely 120 damage. But he offers a lot more for that trade, and as theHutts points out he is likely to get cunning

FlyingArrow wrote:
I'm not a fan of this Luke, but I'm sure most would say it's for a silly reason. I don't like that he basically replaces GMLS. GMLS was an iconic piece from WotC - the highest cost piece by far. Sure - not competitive at all. But I would have rather seen boosts for GMLS than a replacement piece. Oh well.

And also, as someone else mentioned, I'm disappointed because it's a new Luke that's not really a new Luke. It's GMLS2. If anyone deserved a new, defining SA or FP this was it.


I understand FlyingArrow's points, but I don't know what you can do to really improve GMLS without just replacing him...he was supposed to be WoTC's EPIC piece and he just was never quite worth it (despite that he was my favorite WotC piece.) If you make a piece that only affects him even that isn't going to leave a lot of room for anything else in the squad. I like the new Luke because he feels a lot closer to what Grand Master Luke should have been. And they at least used the same sculpt as the RM ThumpUp (though personally I think Luke Skywalker, JM has a cooler sculpt and I'll probably use that.)

And while I do really like Luke, HotO; something brand new would have been great as well. Especially something to fill in the blanks of the New Republic Lukes. We have One incredibly High-cost, beat stick. An expensive moderate threat (who also needs help outside of epic games.) So maybe a "lower point" Commander or Teacher Luke (see my custom above) or some more help for Luke, Jedi Master. Again I don't mind that he is GMLS2.0 since GMLS 1.0 was underwhelming in competitive play (though incredibly fun in casual.)
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:25:14 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
And while I do really like Luke, HotO; something brand new would have been great as well. Especially something to fill in the blanks of the New Republic Lukes. We have One incredibly High-cost, beat stick. An expensive moderate threat (who also needs help outside of epic games.) So maybe a "lower point" Commander or Teacher Luke (see my custom above) or some more help for Luke, Jedi Master. Again I don't mind that he is GMLS2.0 since GMLS 1.0 was underwhelming in competitive play (though incredibly fun in casual.)

You might get your wish sooner than you'd think....
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:58:51 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
And while I do really like Luke, HotO; something brand new would have been great as well. Especially something to fill in the blanks of the New Republic Lukes. We have One incredibly High-cost, beat stick. An expensive moderate threat (who also needs help outside of epic games.) So maybe a "lower point" Commander or Teacher Luke (see my custom above) or some more help for Luke, Jedi Master. Again I don't mind that he is GMLS2.0 since GMLS 1.0 was underwhelming in competitive play (though incredibly fun in casual.)

You might get your wish sooner than you'd think....


Looking forward to it then ThumbsUp
DarkLordVerjal
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:13:03 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
And while I do really like Luke, HotO; something brand new would have been great as well. Especially something to fill in the blanks of the New Republic Lukes. We have One incredibly High-cost, beat stick. An expensive moderate threat (who also needs help outside of epic games.) So maybe a "lower point" Commander or Teacher Luke (see my custom above) or some more help for Luke, Jedi Master. Again I don't mind that he is GMLS2.0 since GMLS 1.0 was underwhelming in competitive play (though incredibly fun in casual.)

You might get your wish sooner than you'd think....


When is the next Vset coming out? I'm dying to see what is in store.
PrimeClone
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:20:09 PM
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Luke has always had subpar characters in this game. Contrary to let’s say Yoda or Vader that have so many cool pieces that represent them really well. I think that the main problem is with how to interpret Luke. In later life Luke becomes a really strong force user. Yet for the NR Luke, the designers seem to interpret him to be a beat stick Mace Windu style. And that’s why I believe that both Grand masters miss the mark in many respects. All he has are high attack, hit points and defense stats. He is boring.
Even the cost and CE are underwhelming. You can't fit any of the faction pieces or boost them, yet he can't carry himself. I strongly suggest looking at Exar Kun for cool force powers and aggressive stats to understand what I mean.
And besides what’s wrong with bringing back "use the force" or levitate. Think of Luke more like a force power user that inspires greatness in others instead of a mean beat stick and you will find "the" Grand Master that he truly is.Drool

Cheers
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:31:21 PM
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
thereisnotry wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
And while I do really like Luke, HotO; something brand new would have been great as well. Especially something to fill in the blanks of the New Republic Lukes. We have One incredibly High-cost, beat stick. An expensive moderate threat (who also needs help outside of epic games.) So maybe a "lower point" Commander or Teacher Luke (see my custom above) or some more help for Luke, Jedi Master. Again I don't mind that he is GMLS2.0 since GMLS 1.0 was underwhelming in competitive play (though incredibly fun in casual.)

You might get your wish sooner than you'd think....


When is the next Vset coming out? I'm dying to see what is in store.


Early March, last I heard. I think it's going to be quite popular.
kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:53:10 PM
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I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...
Echo24
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:06:21 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


Oh, it's popular enough. Wink
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:09:48 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


I'd love to see that as well! Luke was an extremely talented duelist and and that is my favorite duel in any of the movies. I was reading something the other day where people were discounting Luke's talents because "he only trained for a bit how could he beat Vader who trained for years!" Because Luke is awesome that is why!

Echo24 wrote:
Oh, it's popular enough. Wink
I like the sound of that!
DarkLordVerjal
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:13:16 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


Luke COTF didn't fill that role?
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:23:26 PM
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


Luke COTF didn't fill that role?


Oddly enough I always thought of COTF as the Luke specifically from Jabba's Palace...
DarkLordVerjal
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:30:59 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
DarkLordVerjal wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


Luke COTF didn't fill that role?


Oddly enough I always thought of COTF as the Luke specifically from Jabba's Palace...


A bit, but it's definitely a bit more than that IMO. Honestly, I'd prefer more Lukes for NR, rather than Rebel.
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:35:36 PM
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
DarkLordVerjal wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular...


Luke COTF didn't fill that role?


Oddly enough I always thought of COTF as the Luke specifically from Jabba's Palace...


A bit, but it's definitely a bit more than that IMO. Honestly, I'd prefer more Lukes for NR, rather than Rebel.


I think if there is a Luke that represents his final fight with Vader and a bit beyond it wouldn't be a stretch to give him NR Affinity.
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:49:42 PM
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Since it was the first Rare main character I ever got in SWCCG, I think that is part of the reason I am hoping the commander Luke will be Luke on Tauntaun. He looks officer-y, they ride horses.

DARPH NADER
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+1, it would be nice to get playable Luke and Hantauns.
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