Railing against the V-Set is not going to help your cause. Believe me, I've been down that road many times. I've come to realize that the V-Set is probably the only thing keeping this game alive.

If you're having problems incorporating V-Set into your games, which was my problem, try homeruling it for awhile to where only 1-2 V-set pieces are allowed into a squad, so as to more easily learn the pieces.

As for the Regionals thing: I think you're overestimating the value of "Regionals Winner." It's just a game. Relax. Even if these things were horribly skewed, guess what? Not all of them are. These slanted winners would just go to Gen Con and get their butts handed to them by the actual Regional winners.

Okay, the thread has been cleaned. The topic is fine for discussion. I am aware of what went on on other sites, and I will not tolerate that here. If you have issues with specific members, please take it to PM.

I just tried Googling "star wars miniatures maplist". The official, nicely presented Map List on swmresources came up 2nd in the results. http://www.swmresources.com/downloads/MapList%20January%202013.pdf

It's not that difficult.

We care...that's why we show up to play. And...when we show up to play, we don't hear anything about 'the mess' you're referring to. Why don't you start playing with us, if you truly do care? That would add a +1 at every event you go to.

We care...that's why we read the forums. We do come across people looking for things from time to time, and we practically fall over each other pointing them in the right direction. Sometimes by watching posts like that you can discover new people to play with that you didn't know about had they not had questions. And...while people have questions from time to time, no one is complaining about the stuff you are.

You made a perfectly reasonable observation a few months back about this, even offering to help with a common site. It turned out not to be the direction people wanted to go. We're all fine with it...like The Hutts said, it's not that difficult. We won't gain '5-10' players in Chicago by fixing stuff that doesn't need fixed. But we might gain 1 if you'd get off of this dead horse and start playing in events.

Have fun with the 6 or 7 players you'll end up with.

Jonny,

I agree that things are messy.

swmresources.com went down and hasn't looked right since, but at least the most important files are visible. Hopefully Echo has it cleaned up soon, but even if not it's a good resource.

swmgamers.com has been a mess since I found this game.

bloomilk.com has the cleanest interface by far, but the owner is not involved.

A single site probably would be a better option, but if you want to be the person to do it, you need to be as involved as anyone else in attending, organizing, etc. Or... just go ahead and do it. If you build a better mousetrap (resources, etc), the site will get the traffic.

As is, just be grateful that shinja, Echo, and swmgamers ppl have the sites up and running.

FA

thread has become a disaster for the OP

As a player who stumbled into the game after it was cancelled, I would just like to say that it isn't difficult AT ALL to find information. With Bloomilk, Gamers, and SWMResources, plus the active community, I was able to find almost everything I needed to fairly quickly, and without much trouble. Sure, just one website might be interesting, but it won't necessarily be better. I honestly think having three specialized sites is much preferable to one "general-purpose" website that is completely confusing.

However, while I think the current site distribution is fine, I do think that there is a major problem, and I know this because of experience. It is incredibly difficult, if not nearly impossible, to find the Star Wars miniatures websites such as Bloomilk, Gamers, and Resources. Now, maybe things have changed since I joined, but it used to be that only the Wizards forums or the Holocron were noticeable in Google search. Really, just the Holocron. And, with both going down, publicity is going to become an issue. I'm worried that the game is getting new players, but that they just can't find the community websites. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.)

No Because growing the game has all to do with a requirement. I was just trying to make a point that the view point we are making is that the game is dying which is not the case.


Because it will force them to go out and get players. For example we are doing a Fantasy football league for gamers. If was not for me sending pms and emails we would not have the min 12. When I ran WI regional it was not easy. I had to email stores from all around.

I am not saying if they dont get a min number they cant play but it cant be called a regional. I think with a little help if given a shot. They would have all the resources to get new players/old players and at least a shot at the goal. It in the end just gives the TO a goal to shoot for and to get players. They cant do that without a little help.

If we had everything in one spot. Which I think Gamers is the best spot to have it since they really are the only one with a home page that we can market it so people will find out news, Gencon, Regionals, Where to find stuff, Add a google location for players with emails and a dote on the map. There is so much we can do to support Gencon, Regionals and local players. We could add a link to the Podcast right on the home page. We could have rolling pictures about events. Make sure to support Bloomilk and link Swmresources in the right why. We dont have to get rid of anything. We just have to make things more simple and give people more resources. I have no clue what map is what. Where to find Vset downloads if it was not for a little link on Gamers which you have to be a member of.

We could make flyers getting them to Gamers which would have a link to Bloomilks Squad builder. We could give them out at Gencon to new players and old players. Having something that is marketable is a lot better than what we have now.

Yes the LCG has FantasyFlightgames.com, TopTiergaming, CardGameDB alot with a alot of other sites. Its a big mess too but because CardGameDB is really a one stop shop. I dont have a problem.

In the end I am willing to do all of this and willing to play Gamers so you can play the game you love but feel like it is growing and that there is support. I have been against the game growing and have thought the game cant grow. That is not true we have just not tried hard enough. Just because we dont have new minis doesnt mean we cant get new players and support them.

In short I believe better tools and marketing with flyers/Youtube videos will get more players out to regionals and gencon. Without the support this can not happen.

Am I the only one that thought it was annoying when I was trying to get back in the game. That I had to go to like 4 different sites. Download like 5 millions files and get lost. That alone was enough to just say enough is enough.

Its not that there are way too many vests, Maps or any of that. Its that its not easy to find stuff if you have no clue where to go and dont want to look for hours or ask questions. That alone is enough for players to not want to play or come back.