Gungan Batman Clone. 9
Savage Oppress, Wayward Apprentice
Independent Outfit is a cool yet risky choice. You've wisely opted for a base 20 damage with access to Karrde's CE. The affinity might have been more thematically accurate if it allowed him access to Maul's faction instead of Maul to his. The rest of the Maul love is accurate and well done. I am hesitant about a minor character having Overwhelming Force, but I understand why you used it here.

AndyHatton. 9.5
Savage Oppress, Maul's Apprentice
There's a lot to like here. His abilities are all spot on, the only eyebrow-raiser is Charging Assault. At first glance it seems odd, but when viewed against the backdrop of the Maul synergies it makes sense. He charged in and laid down the smack at his brother's bidding. I think you went the right direction with Affinity and Dark Armor is nice to see. Knight Speed, however, feels redundant and could have been dropped or swapped.

General Grievous. 8.75
Savage Oppress, Monster
Your switch to Double Attack is wise, though I don't think 200HP is warranted. As a minor character and a character with Counterattack/Dark Armor, 160-ish HP would suffice and feel more appropriate. Battering Charge is potent, especially if you can catch some grouped enemies and spend 1 FP for Overwhelming Force. As mentioned above, I'm not thrilled with this character having OF.

Lord Ball. 9.25
Savage Oppress, Dark Acolyte Enforcer
First, my apologies for not commenting on this piece during the week. I am not sure how I missed it but it certainly wasn't intentionally overlooked. Callous is cool and a creative way to control the fortunes of the game for Impulsive Momentum. This makes Ambush that much cooler. Parry makes sense given his low-ish stats and I like your minimalist approach to his Force powers. See comments above about Overwhelming Force.

donnyrides. 8.75
Savage Oppress, Betrayed Apprentice
Rival fits the theme as laid down by his subtitle. I see we had very similar ideas regarding Affinity and Savage. Mighty Swing is cool (was on an early version of my entry as well) but it gives him a potential 60 damage a hit with Bandon in the Sith faction. That is HUGE for 36 points. Savage helps mitigate this as points mush be spent for Empathy. However, w/o he gains the benefits of the Sith Wrangler. With your use of OF (4th so far this week), I'm starting to question my resistance to its use on this character.

pegolego. 9
Savage Oppress, Dark Acolyte
What?! No Overwhelming Force?! Are you crazy?! :-) Brutal Strike is a decent alternative and LSThrow3 gives him great range. I like the interaction of Hand of Tyranus, Sith Rage, base 20 damage, Double and Momentum. He can hit hard on the move 1 time, Twice for more overall if immobile. With Tyranus, he is almost guaranteed Sith Rage & Brutal Strike on every one of his turns. It was a nice move to balance him with a paltry defense and no defensive abilities.

poppins88. 8.75
Savage Oppress, Dark Apprentice
I like the suite of Force powers you've assembled here. Brutal Enforcer is fun and thematic, as are Sith Apprentice and Conflicted Apprentice. My only qualm is that with so much faction-specific diversity, it seems as though this is stealing the thunder of future versions as it attempts to cover every base. I feel like any 2 of the 3 would still result in a fun piece that provides different tools in each faction. The inclusion of Dark Armor is a good decision.

CerousMutor. 9
Savage Oppress, Sith Apprentice
Your choice to have Affinity pull Maul or Savage into the other's faction is interesting and provides maximum flexibility. I didnt notice this previously, but this build has huge damage potential. With synergy, he can attack 4 times at up to 60 damage each. Granted, Bloodthirsty in most cases either won't apply on the first swing (or 2), or will be wasted on the last swing (or 2) but that still leaves a realistic 160 damage (50x3, 60x1). This assumes access to Bandon's CE and thats a fair amount of points for Bandon, Savage and Maul. Fortunately, there isn't a great movement breaker available for that situation @ 200 points.

saber1
Savage Oppress, Dark Warrior
Needs a pinch of salt.

I need to bail so my ratings and vote will be posted later today. Tough competition this week, but then that describes pretty much every week.

EDIT: Ratings are posted and my vote goes to AndyHatton.

I'll get my votes in asap

What straight link into Mandos? He needs Maul to get into Mandos. I only put the symbol there to remind myself while building (they should have been taken down before the contest.) But he has no direct way into Mandos.

I'm not gonna have time to vote this week, sorry.

Andy Hatton's, Maul's apprentice 9,8.5,9.5,9,9.5,8.9,8.8 for an average of 9.02857


Gungan Batman Clone's, Wayward Apprentice 8.6,9,8.75,9,9,8.75,8.9 for an average of 8.85714


General_Grievous', Monster 8.75,9,8.75,8.75,8.5,8.5,8.8 for an average of 8.72143


Lord Ball's, Dark Acolyte Enforcer 8.7,9,9.5,9.25,9,8.5,8.9 for an average of 8.97857


DonnyRides', Betrayed Apprentice 8.9,8.9,9.5,9,8.75,8.75,8.9 for an average of 8.95714


PegoLego's, Dark Acolyte 8.8,9.25,9,9,9.3,9.5,9 for an average of 9.12143


Poppins88's, Dark Apprentice 8.7,8.5,8,8.5,8.75,8.9,8.5,8.5 for an average of 8.54375


Cerous_Mutor's, Sith Apprentice 9,9,9,9,9,8.5 for an average of 8.91667


Saber1's 9.1,9.25,9.5,8.75,8.5,9,9 for an average of 9.01429



Pegolego has the highest rated character in this weeks contest so he gets the bonus 2 for a total of 6! What a win! Congrats

Thanks, saber1! I for one was surprised that YOU didn't win (I did vote for your piece; a Very strong entry!), and as always I am very humbled and greatly appreciative of each and every vote! Thanks everybody

@Andy, Sorry for my rating, I took what I had on the card an it looked to be directly linked to mandos with the faction icon in the corner. If that was my only gripe, then you had a very good piece.

Congrats Pego!! A very playable piece.

My rating criteria:
1.Would I play this piece over already existing forms of this character? - YES I WOULD
AND
2.How do the stats and abilities relate to the price of the piece. - I THINK THEY WERE GREAT
AND
3. How do the abilities relate to each other and to the lore of the piece itself. - PICKED A SPOT IN TIME AND NAILED IT.

Great job

Great job pego'! These have been some close competitions! The ratings have really been the tie breaker.

For those that had issues with Dark Armor paired with TKS, is it more the damage reduction itself being too much or too much for this particular character? He only reduces ranged damage by 10 on a save. Yes, the Melee damage is a guaranteed -10 damage but with the power creep of the last few years, most attacks will still do decent damage to him during their turn. The bigger the hit an attacker does, the less advantageous TKS is over LSBlock. Bane will still deal 40 damage a hit against TKS, but may end up dealing no damage at all if Blocked.

Sure, Oppress wasn't a finesse dueler like Obi or Dooku, but he was a bruiser who is described as shrugging off most blows.

I see, I guess I didn't quite think of that...it is just in Seps with Poggle Bombs it seems like a waste of Savage's turn to use him in such a way to clear out your own fodder.



I think people just look at it and it looks like he will consistently take less damage because of these abilities, it may not be true, but I think that is just what people say. Folks are used to having their damage negated every once in a while, but having the damage reduced (and in such a way that some people might never even damage Savage,) I think people just see it is unfair (again whether or not that is an unfair assessment I'm not sure.) But then again it makes me think of a piece like the Zann Consortium Droideka...obviously there are limitations to its double reduction, but it can also get 2 reducers and people don't seem to have an issue with that (that I have heard of at least.)

EDIT: So perhaps it is just a kneejerk reaction that people don't like but would settle into.