Random ideas

1. limit non uniques to a max of 4 per squad. ( I.E. 4 mouse droids only, 4 Stormtroopers, 4 Rax Troopers)

2. All CE are now "within 6 squares"

3. No booming voice

4. No unpreventable damage

5. no tempo control

6. All characters without the melee ability have a max base damage of 10 ( this is more of personal thing with me than anything. Melee beats get eaten alive by their shooter counterparts)

:Edit: Even something as simple as no more Accurate shot, or any ability that gets around "targeting". It almost eliminates the purpose of "fodder" pieces... because most shooter squads just shoot past them.

7. Vong not allowed (again, this one is more me than anything else. I can't stand the Vong, or their faction. And now that they are not canon I could care less if they were eradicated from the game completely)

8. I'm sure certain pieces in general would have to be banned, obviously depending on what rules are accepted and what not.

EDIT: 9. A activation limit would be neat... maybe you squad can have any umber of characters.. but you only get X activations. Example. I have 20 pieces in my squad, but I can only activate 16 of them?

Those are the rules I can think of off the top of my head that would help as far as squad building concerns go. In game mechanics would be a different story, although with Mice being diminutive the only other thing would be a "range" on shooters. Even something as simple as any shot beyond X squares you get a minus 4.

It would also be a good idea to before anything is set in stone to

A. see how many people would be interested in signing up for this if it were offered at GenCon
B. Play a few games in the format that is decided to make sure no other NPE's arise.

My thing would be, once rules are set for it. Try to break it. Try to create something that is competitive with the rules, and make it a something no one wants to see, and then maybe alterations can be made for that.

I like this guy

All we are saying, is give Peace Brigade a chance.
All we are saying, is give Peace Brigade a chance.

Gambit is not needed. Pieces with Override are the problem. Just give doors 50 hp per square and create a rule that doors can be attacked only when they are held close by override. That's how i house-ruled it and it works just great!

And @Caedus, the few changes i suggested are not really changing the game at all, they just change a few very extreme tactics and problems. I don't see the point, honestly. The V-Sets have done this in a far greater scope than i would with this few changes. Also, not all of my suggestions are of equal importance. Mainly the Override, Tempo Control and Galloping/Strafe are the big issues.

Do you honestly think by removing those extreme and limiting mechanics the game would become a "mindless roll+move+attack+repeat"-game? People had lots of fun with this back in 2004 with Rebel Storm, when only one character had override. I think you are exaggerating quite much here IMO.

Except your suggestions are way more drastic than the gambit format. You are asking to change costs of pieces, remove an entire faction and more pieces, limit non-uniques, change the way ANY squad with a commander is played, remove auto damage and tempo control which have a way bigger effect on the game than gambit, and also asking to either remove Accurate Shot (a huge part of the game, and would also basically make Cloaked useless so there's 2 major abilities gone) or change the Damage of almost every shooter piece in the game. Oh, and an activation limit which would also change the way the game is played drastically. It would literally be a completely different game with all of the stuff you want changed changed. It's nothing like gambit at all.

No i do not. That was not me who was asking for that. Please read my posts again.

You should probably add the door rules to your initial list.

Is there any structure to this idea at all right now... Cause I just see us throwing ideas out, and then people bashing them?

So.... If your interested in actually going to GenCon and participating in the event that these nice gentleman are attempting to create for us. Then voice opinions. If you have 0 interest in attending GenCon, then your opinion should be heard, and considered, but other than that nothing else.

Who is the person in charge of organizing the GenCon games for SWM? That person or someone else designated by them (easy to communicate between those two) Lets start with the simple things of Whow WILL/WOULD be interested in trying this out? Competitive and casual alike?

I would most certainly be interested as a casual gamer to appear for my first time, and attempt to bring some TN guys if they will leave their castles.

Who else?

To address the point of Override being the problem, isn't that why we have a 3 point Fringe piece with Satchel Charge? Not to mention the 15 point Fringe piece with Shatter Beam, which would be a solid counter even if we banned said 3 point piece?

#cough# surprise event #cough# Sorry have a non competive frog in my throat