Effectively what's happening now is whatever positive momentum giving out the previews might have started at bloo milk has been derailed by nit picking, and that's a pity.

I think I should wait and see what effect community requests have had on figure selection. I think I did forget about that. I guess I did get caught up in seeing what I saw with SWCCG. Sure, I won't know whether pieces were community request or those of the design team. I apologize for losing it and freaking out after reading your and billiv's posts, that, with my past experiences with SWCCG, essentially said to me "Screw you guys we are doing this our way." I guess that's part of the problem with non-F2F discussions; you can't stop someone and ask for clarification at critical points in mutual understanding.

This isn't me throwing blame, it's me making a suggestion before I back out: It would probably have gone down better if we were told why anakin wasn't picked instead of comments that I think were too easy to interpret as "It has already been decided so don't bother trying to do anyhting about it."

Also, please take what NickName said to heart and realize that you can do it so much better that Wizards ever did. In my opinion, that would be including the community in commenting on the design of just a few pieces. Even one.

I've got an Exar Kun Sith Spirit mini I bought off ebay ages ago!
I can remember who made it but its great! A resin cast made to look like the art work of him from the Champions of the Force.

Other wise I'd just use a force ghost. I dont think its as big an issue as people think.
I thought it was at first, but seriously we have some people who are doing this as a non-profit venture for ALL OF US!

Keep up the great work! To all the team that are working hard in their own time to make sure we can all benefit and continue to enjoy Star Wars Minis...I thank you.

Oh, hints. Let's go with Voxyn!

I think you misread what I wrote. I said "equally viable" (twice). If you're making a new Boba Fett, I think a Boba Fett mini is a much better mini to use than a generic Mando.

But if you're making, say, a new Mace Windu, Master Windu is a rare. That's my vote.

The game is collectible, but if the game is to survive, it is better to lower the bar of entry for new players.



Awesomeness. I didn't look that closely. :-)

Using Exar's proper mini to represent his ghost just feels natural. We'd all love a transparent Exar figure, but Wizards couldn't be bothered to give us one (heh, not that I'm bitter about all the missed opportunities or anything...) so we're stuck with the next best thing. It will almost certainly be the same situation if we ever get a Force Spirit of Qui-Gon Jinn. Short of using an Obi-wan Force Spirit, what else is there? Or if Nihilus or other Sith Lords were done as spirits too? Even Mara Jade has shown up briefly in some of the comics as a force ghost. What would we use for her but a Mara Jade figure? It just seems like a common sense thing to me.

I'm strongly tempted to reacquire a mini of Exar Kuun now that I've seen the new card.

That particular Sith Lord never really interested me "in the flesh", and I eventually traded him off. As a Sith Force Spirit however, he's so much more interesting. Particularly since I'm primarily a theme team player and could never bring myself to use Hologram Sidious as a force source for all my other Sith. After all, they were all long dead before Sidious was even born. The idea of it just bugged the heck out of me. But a Sith ghost of Kuun floating around doing just what he's done in the novels? Cool and, even more importantly for me, thematic!

Before I go into this rant, know that I am not calling anyone out by name, and my statements could be applied to several people. I apolgize for offending anyone in particular beforehand, though I am aware that it is simply a courtesy, cause even with me apologizing, your still gonna get offended anyway.

Also, please do not assume ive read all two pages of this thread, though I read the other one on Gamers earlier, so I get the gist...

*Ahem*

On the one hand, I feel the exclusion of the general populace by the 'gamer elite', as Motti has been pointing out, is a little annoying, and that he makes a good point, in that suggestions (at least on this issue), seem to be largely ignored, though they have been heard. On this same hand, I feel that it wouldnt be *that* much work to do, for example, a thread per piece, let the community give input for each piece, and then the designers take the gathered info, design something, and submit it for general poll-style approval.

On the other hand, the one I more lean towards at this current point, I feel that the idea I presented above, or any similar idea be used as a method of designing any number of pieces, let alone a whole let, all kinds of crap is going to break loose, and you will have board members starting all kinds of threads(like this one for example), whining to the 'powers that be' about how they think it should be different, and complaining in general about the pieces being made. This results in two things:
1) A much, MUCH longer process of creating pieces, which no one wants
2) Annoying everyone else on the boards by continually arguing about seemingly trivial bits of stuff about the pieces.

So, to those who are complaining about the current process:
1) you dont have to play the pieces
2) you could talk to your local judge, if you feel so inclined, and get the piece/set banned altogether from your venue if you think it/they are broken
3) dont plan on going to regionals or gencon? then use whatever flipping pieces you like for whatever. Play 33 freakin ugnaughts for all it matters, and then just designate each one something other than an ugnaught, though I wouldnt allow it personally, unless they were going to be 33 of the same other thing...
4) Seriously, are you really THAT concerned about them using Exar instead of Anakin? Really? if the answer is yes, you need to get out more.

/end rant

Lastly, I didnt vote in this thing, cause there is no "I dont care which piece they chose" button...

Who?? I can't even find him on Wookieepedia.

the problem with any more community input beyond the "what do you wanna see" type threads is that according to TPTB they have most likely have already thought of anything the community could say

I was just repeting the same ol line that gets said anytime a big change is made by a few key people and then is questioned upon by numerous others...