That's why I posted a comment, dude



That's what I meant, V-sets need to follow somekind of schematics. You argue about Sith troopers and renewal... well you got mices for that (yeah a problem, but still, I myself only have 3 )

In my opinion I think thinks were messed up when the New Republic was made stronger then the Vong. The Vong practically won the war and it took some amazing new tactics along with luck to quell them. But sadly the Vong were made out to be the weakest faction in the game. Now the most resent DOTF helped make them a force to be feared again. We'll see as time goes whether they are up to par yet. The Rebels for to long have held the rigns as the best faction. Easy to build a competitive squad with them. Just need a few key pieces and you're set. Even as a one trick pony the Rebels are hard to beat.

I have 5 mouse droids and I use all of them in some squads. Booming voice is not needed in all situation. And in quite a few cases I wouldn't even bother. I've built a few squads with it but wound up not fully needing it. As the swap was minor in use over Thrawn's oppertunist. But that is also do to my playing style and squad build.

For the sake of discussion, what if the Rebels BV was on a more expensive piece (45+ points) that did other things as well, but you were paying greatly for the BV ability? For example, Nym has Disruptive, but does not see much play unless you specifically want him. I believe he was the one to introduce this ability, but was never considered broken due mostly to his cost.

Personally, I don't like BV as an ability at all. It takes a bit of the excitement out of the battle if the commanders are never in danger. I enjoy the more aggressive style game though.

I had this discussion with some friends a few months ago, and Booming Voice for any faction, in all honesty, Blows. Its like Squid said, its takes all of the excitement out of targeting commanders and other pieces. Mouse droids were the perfect pieces to help with the CE issues for all other factions, so Booming Voice should just be on mas Amedda.

If Sith ever got Evade and Mobile, Id spit furiously.
Dont get me wrong, that would seriously boost my Revan SL and Exar DFS squad, but it would prove to be too much.

ell, I think the Yammosk pretty much makes Vong tougher all around, but their weakness is still melee no matter what.
How about a Vong CE that grants Allies within 6 (use the Yammosk) razorbug 10 or 20.

True, but you look at Black Sun squads and battle droid Squads. Human Blasters for Hire can be good if used in Black Son thrawn squads, and at 5 points, it can also be abused.
but on the the other hand, Speed Pieces(Lancers, YoBuck and even pieces that have GMA) would be the demise of Razor Bugging Vong Workers. But none the less, Vong need a ranged boost that relies on sight.

Was writing my thing when you posted. The difference between a Vong worker having razor bug and a Human Blaster is that the worker can easily be given Self Destruct 20. Making the Lancer or Yobuck a tough piece to wield against them. As for GMA, it doesn't do much good unless you can get with in 6 of the worker or adjacent when Nom Anor is in play. Then when adjacent the exploding vong is still an issue.

I do, and I prefer it to Razorbug because even if you're in disruptive, you can activate your opponent and move to safety.

I disagree, Boardwide swap is one of the more challenging squad types to master. You have to be able to get your 1-2 attackers to beat other peoples 4-5 attackers. If that isnt tactics i dont know what is.

Heck the #2 squad at gencon was 1, count it 1 single attacker with support. That is all strategy and tactics. If you'd like proof PM me and I'll show you on vassal.



As to Rebels getting Booming Voice. It's an interesting Idea, but who do you give it to? how much would it cost? would it really help them that much? Do you want to help them anymore then they already have?


I'd be more in favor of giving them other CE's or Abilities that suite them. They are a ragtag group of dropouts who fight against a Galactic Empire and win. Booming voice and MT don't really suite that archtype. Things like Mobile, Evade, Stealth, override, disruptive all suite them perfectly. Over on gamers somewhere fingersandteeth has a great article on faction personalities and the designers philosophy when making pieces for factions. I'd say look into that.

Im sorry Weeks, but I dont see how Boardwide swap is more tactical then swap within 6.
Yea, #2 at Gencon had 1 main Attacker, but I would almost bet that that 1 attacker was picking scrubs off before it got to the meat of any of his opps squads.
Booming Voice allows you to take the tactics out of squad building, because you dont have to run as a unit anymore.
Im not 100% against BV, heck, I use it 40% of the time that Im playing, but there is no way Im buying that BV makes squads more tactical. Now granted, these are just our opinions, I dont want anyone thinkin that I hate BV.
Simple question:
Would it be harder to run Thrawn without Mas (Lets say we didnt have MDs) in a squad that is relying on that swap? You would have to bring thrawn out of the end side of the map to get pieces in and out of Mid Board.
The point is, I guess, is that we have 2-3 point MDs that are fringe. We dont need another Character with BV. Its bad enough that a lot of play groups wont allow the Yammosk in play.