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SuperYodaMan
Posted: Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:55:56 AM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
Personally I think the V-sets are really cool, I dont think you would find ANY one here who wouldn't rather have new minis, but we have what we have (and I have heard rumors that even some people or individuals are working on that!) but the cards are great. One thing you might want to try is customizing the minis. Thats how I got back in to the game and it makes playing with the V-set cards so much more fun to use the actually charter with his/her padawan or enemy in a game. Not every ones good when they start but theres literally no limit to what you can create, take a look at some of cerousmutor's customs, or lilywans and check it out. I think it might just give you that second wind for the game you once loved.

I'm not debating whether they're cool, because they are. There's just certain things about them that I don't particularly like. I have thought about customizing minis or making my own, but I never really was the artistic type, and spending more money on the supplies and minis to make the customizations, not to mention destroying rare/valuable figures, never really appealed to me. Don't get me wrong, it's amazing what some people can do with a few minis, some paint, an X-acto knife, and some glue, but I just couldn't bring myself to do that because of my lack of creativity and the cost associated with it.

Lobotnik wrote:
But who knows what they will do with Star Wars. It is not like WotC made the best system possible, they might create something that absolutely blows SWM away. It will be interesting to see what their developers come up with.

Touché.
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RogueThirteen
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For anyone who's never heard of Fantasy Flight Games or is worried these games will be flops, I can assure you that will not be the case. FFG is THE leader in the boardgaming industry currently, I'd say. Some of their better known titles are Arkham Horror, Mansions of Madness, Dust Tactics, Tannhauser, Chaos and the Old World, Battlestar Galactica, and a slew of other card and board games.

What's interesting is that from their announcement about the license, it doesn't seem like it came with rights to board games (card, RPG, and miniature games). What this means, I'd speculate, is that the games FFG makes will be heavily miniature based (and these minis will get double-duty for an RPG, if they do one, though I can't really see that happening with so many other Star Wars RPG resources already out there).


That being said, the X-Wing dogfighting miniature game looks absolutely amazing, in my opinion. The demo minis (unsurprisingly) blow the old WotC ones out of the water (much better quality and no incredibly bent TIE wings or s-foils). But, what's best of all, is that it looks like the size will be roughly comparable to the WotC miniatures, so I plan on immediately making house rules for A-Wings, Interceptors, etc., though I'm sure FFG will have expansion packs with these soon enough. Plus, having a bunch of the WotC minis means that with some proxying of the other components, you could have more X-Wings and TIEs duking it out without needing to buy multiple base sets of the game.

Check it out on the Geek (some great photos and reviews of demo games down in the forum threads for the game):
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/103885/x-wing
SuperYodaMan
Posted: Thursday, August 4, 2011 5:03:28 PM
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RogueThirteen wrote:
For anyone who's never heard of Fantasy Flight Games or is worried these games will be flops, I can assure you that will not be the case. FFG is THE leader in the boardgaming industry currently, I'd say. Some of their better known titles are Arkham Horror, Mansions of Madness, Dust Tactics, Tannhauser, Chaos and the Old World, Battlestar Galactica, and a slew of other card and board games.

I haven't heard of any of their games, either. Razz I never really got into minis/TCGs/RPGs because 1) I don't know anyone close by (less than 15 miles from my house) that is remotely interested in these kinds of things, 2) they can get to be pretty expensive, 3) I never really had much free time during the school year for things like this, and 4) they can be addictive (case in point: my dad knew of some people, we'll say nerds, in college that were incredibly smart but flunked out because they spent all their spare time playing D&D). I'll take your word for their prowess, though.


Wow. They look a lot cooler than I thought they would. ThumpUp

Is the whole thing just X-wings and TIE Fighters, though? I don't care how cool or detailed the figures are, or how innovative or interesting the game mechanics are, if the whole game revolves around only two different kinds of ships, I'm not too interested. At least Wizards' Starship Battles incorporated a majority of the various ships seen in the movies, as well as a couple in the Expanded Universe. All I can say is that I hope FFG doesn't make big mistakes on ship stats like WotC did on a couple figures (I'm looking at you, Y-Wing Fighter. Yes, you, the one without Proton Bombs.).
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X-Wing game does look pretty cool. I shall wait and see if anyone else near me gets it, I would like a test run before buying in.

I am sure they will bring out more craft with time so will watch this with a lot of interest.
Darthbane53
Posted: Friday, August 5, 2011 12:52:30 AM
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SuperYodaMan wrote:
4) they can be addictive (case in point: my dad knew of some people, we'll say nerds, in college that were incredibly smart but flunked out because they spent all their spare time playing D&D.


Sorry to say, but I cannot think of a better way to fail a class!
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X-wings do look nice, still not interested in ships though.

If they do character figures as good AND they are same scale as WOTC I might get some. However I am not buying into a new game so will only pick up a few of the secondary market if they can be used to represent Vset characters. Still they are most likely only going to do minis from the films at least for the foreseeable future so I cannot see me needing many at all..
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dreadtech wrote:
X-wings do look nice, still not interested in ships though.

If they do character figures as good AND they are same scale as WOTC I might get some. However I am not buying into a new game so will only pick up a few of the secondary market if they can be used to represent Vset characters. Still they are most likely only going to do minis from the films at least for the foreseeable future so I cannot see me needing many at all..


That what I was thinking, it took Wotc 17(?) sets to come out with the characters they did, which means (if) what ever battle set or box set they come out with first, i would put my life on its going to be han, leia, chewie, vader, basically a combination and RS and CS
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Darthbane53 wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
X-wings do look nice, still not interested in ships though.

If they do character figures as good AND they are same scale as WOTC I might get some. However I am not buying into a new game so will only pick up a few of the secondary market if they can be used to represent Vset characters. Still they are most likely only going to do minis from the films at least for the foreseeable future so I cannot see me needing many at all..


That what I was thinking, it took Wotc 17(?) sets to come out with the characters they did, which means (if) what ever battle set or box set they come out with first, i would put my life on its going to be han, leia, chewie, vader, basically a combination and RS and CS


Exactly! Perfect custom fodder for Gambler Han, R2-D2 and C-3PO, Epic Luke, the new Vader and a Chewie might be a great double for a Wookie Jedi. Although we might be familiar with the characters and they may well be doubles of RS and CS, that might be exactly what we need for the V-Sets. Especially people like me who are not great at cutting up, but could paint a few ready made figures.
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SuperYodaMan wrote:
Is the whole thing just X-wings and TIE Fighters, though? I don't care how cool or detailed the figures are, or how innovative or interesting the game mechanics are, if the whole game revolves around only two different kinds of ships, I'm not too interested.


It sounds like X-Wing is based on Wings of War, a very popular WWI/II dogfighting game by FFG. With WoW the base set comes with 5 planes, and there have been a number of other plane types released as expansion packs.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=24&esem=2

Think of what's initially coming out as a starter, to be followed by additional ships and products to expand the game.
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I'm sure the new style game is really cool. But here is what it comes down to for me. Ive got literally thousands of dollars(that might be putting it mildly) tied up in the Wotc game, as well years of playing. and a nice group of people still playing and having fun with The WOTC game. The Vsets have enhanced that and made the game exiting. For me to start a whole new game doesn't make much sense for me, no matter how cool it is.
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qvos wrote:
I'm sure the new style game is really cool. But here is what it comes down to for me. Ive got literally thousands of dollars(that might be putting it mildly) tied up in the Wotc game, as well years of playing. and a nice group of people still playing and having fun with The WOTC game. The Vsets have enhanced that and made the game exiting. For me to start a whole new game doesn't make much sense for me, no matter how cool it is.


I think thats what it's going to come down to for a large number of folks
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Posted: Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:24:36 AM
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qvos wrote:
I'm sure the new style game is really cool. But here is what it comes down to for me. Ive got literally thousands of dollars(that might be putting it mildly) tied up in the Wotc game, as well years of playing. and a nice group of people still playing and having fun with The WOTC game. The Vsets have enhanced that and made the game exiting. For me to start a whole new game doesn't make much sense for me, no matter how cool it is.


Keep that in mind if FFG or LF ever makes them stop doing v-sets.
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eMouse wrote:
qvos wrote:
I'm sure the new style game is really cool. But here is what it comes down to for me. Ive got literally thousands of dollars(that might be putting it mildly) tied up in the Wotc game, as well years of playing. and a nice group of people still playing and having fun with The WOTC game. The Vsets have enhanced that and made the game exiting. For me to start a whole new game doesn't make much sense for me, no matter how cool it is.


Keep that in mind if FFG or LF ever makes them stop doing v-sets.
And that's fine. I decided a long time ago, I think after Champions, that I was in for the long haul with SW minis. The more v-sets the better obviously, but there are still so many teams I want to try from the last sets and even the last v-set. You have to understand that I'm not the type of person to switch from game to game. I still play the Original KOTOR, even after have beaten it over 30 times. I still love the way SWminis is played and new ones are still buying Target packs and getting interested in the game. I'm also now 37 and don't know if I have it in me to start all over, and expect my friends to get into the new game. It's like I'm emotionaly committed to this game. lol thats kinda funny to me but I have this sense of Loyalty to this game. I have no problem with the new game, I'm just down with SWminis. If you want to play the new game. Cool.. I hope the new One is a success. I just won't be along for the ride and thats ok.
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I think the biggest appeal will be to a few types of players: gamers who like new games all the time, collectors who also like to play. I fall into the latter category and a new game with new pieces to collect appeals to me more than the virtual sets. FFG starting with ships is not in conflict with SWM anyway, but a nice new distraction. I don't plan to abandon all the minis I have and enjoy busting out the older pieces and using new maps - that's fresh enough for me when I get the itch to play. FFG looks to have high quality products and I hear their game mechanics are generally sound, so I'm in for a test run anyway. After a couple expansion sets, maybe that will be enough, but I highly doubt I will get as submerged in the new game as I did with SWM.
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amazing news, I live within 10 minutes of the roseville event center...I am very excited for the miniatures to be released
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trappedslider wrote:

What? No random boosters or, as the FFG guy called them, "blind buys?" Crying Opening a booster is half the fun of collecting! It's like Christmas every time you buy a booster, except you never know what you're going to get and you usually don't get what you ask for! LOL

starhawks wrote:
amazing news, I live within 10 minutes of the roseville event center...I am very excited for the miniatures to be released

Dang, dude! Where have you been all these years? I just live over in Circle Pines and am going to be a college student this year myself! I had know idea that there was anyone within a 15 minute drive of my house that was remotely interested in SWM.
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qvos wrote:
And that's fine. I decided a long time ago, I think after Champions, that I was in for the long haul with SW minis. The more v-sets the better obviously, but there are still so many teams I want to try from the last sets and even the last v-set. ...

Cool.. I hope the new One is a success. I just won't be along for the ride and thats ok.


Yeah, I'm not particularly interested in either of the games FFG has announced so far either.

I just figure at some point, if the v-set project gets shut down by outside forces, there will be cries of "why?! It wasn't competing with FFG!" But in a way, it is, by keeping people satisfied with what they've already bought, rather than trying something new.

However, I rather suspect that what FFG puts out will be enough of a success, especially compared to what's probably a relatively small group still playing SWM, that there won't be much of an issue.
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I remember reading that the X wing game will add more ship types in the future. FF is good for doing that sort of thing.

FF will not make a mini skirmish game, IMHO. They probably paid a nice chunk of change for the SW license, and probably do not want to pay WotC for the card style, terms rules and mechanics when they have a perfectly talented staff to do so. I do believe that they will do some type of mini game, but it will be their typical mini/ card deck/ scenario based game. Minis will be the usual characters (no Verpine Tech or Sith Marauder) ans scaled larger than SW minis.
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