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Turkish wrote:It is a neat character, I am just unsure that he will make up for his points while he is damaging himself. Being a Wookiee, Splash makes sense. I bet he would in Tile Wars with Ganner tossing him into a crowd and Leia for save rerolls 
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I agree that this piece will fill a niche role, but It sure got me angry when that splash damage caused me to kill myself trying to win... Oh well...  Ohh well, the piece is cool!
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Maybe it's because he hits with such destructive force the energy from his lightsaber flares out and causes damage.
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qvos wrote:I agree that this piece will fill a niche role, but It sure got me angry when that splash damage caused me to kill myself trying to win... Oh well... Ohh well, the piece is cool! Yea, thats what I thought. Reminds me of the Junk Golem, but at least he has Shields 1! The only benifit to splash is when he is attacking high def (and thus likely to miss) beatsticks or attacking figures adjacent to mouse droids.
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Hydrowhip wrote:Maybe it's because he hits with such destructive force the energy from his lightsaber flares out and causes damage. that's the most logical reason I've heard yet.  Bob speed ahead! 
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The wookie jedi will also make people think twice about bringing in a bodyguard for reinforcements/reserves considering he could just kill the body guard and then cleave the one he was protecting.
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swinefeld wrote:Turkish wrote:It is a neat character, I am just unsure that he will make up for his points while he is damaging himself. Being a Wookiee, Splash makes sense. I bet he would in Tile Wars with Ganner tossing him into a crowd and Leia for save rerolls I actually like him being in republic in tile wars. He gets rolling cleave for the lawnmower effect. If you have panaka in there he can be swapped in, yoda for the extra saves, Asoka for rolling cleave, The rOTS Shaak ti for force leap, to get into a good spot or to swap for sweep, and another wookie jedi and you have a great squad, unless they have GMLS.....
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With Momentum and Rolling Cleave... better not be standing next to anything he can kill in two swipes.
For example, an R7 standing next to, say, Darth Bane. Or worse, an R7 and a Mouse next to Darth Bane.
Lightsaber Sweep to attack all three. First, kill the R7 in 2 hits. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Rolling Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Attack the Mouse (if the Splash didn't kill it already). Say we miss the first attack, hit the second. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Attack Darth Bane. Two attacks with Momentum.
That's 6 attacks on Darth Bane for 30 damage each. Plus 4 chances at splash damage. 220 potential damage in one activation. That's dependent on the rolls all falling the right way, of course, but wow. And he'd have to roll splash damage on himself 10 times in that ordeal, too.
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FlyingArrow wrote:With Momentum and Rolling Cleave... better not be standing next to anything he can kill in two swipes.
For example, an R7 standing next to, say, Darth Bane. Or worse, an R7 and a Mouse next to Darth Bane.
Lightsaber Sweep to attack all three. First, kill the R7 in 2 hits. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Rolling Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Attack the Mouse (if the Splash didn't kill it already). Say we miss the first attack, hit the second. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Attack Darth Bane. Two attacks with Momentum.
That's 6 attacks on Darth Bane for 30 damage each. Plus 4 chances at splash damage. 220 potential damage in one activation. That's dependent on the rolls all falling the right way, of course, but wow. And he'd have to roll splash damage on himself 10 times in that ordeal, too. and that is why we should all love the wookie jedi.
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Yeah, when it lines up for the Wookiee, the damage is insane. In Flying Arrow's example, he could kill Bane.
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I think this is exactly what a Wookiee Jedi should be like. When you play him, it feels like you're playing a Wookiee with anger issues - Splash 10 is a great way to simulate that. Great job design team! I have lots of ideas for how to use him - synergistic combos abound, but overall seems very well balanced.
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I got to play test this piece during design. If you all think he's bad now, imagine him having 30 base damage with all the stuff Republic can do? That was one of the changes we had to make because he was doing crazy amounts of damage. Yeah the splash is bad, but its worth the damage potential. I think this mini accurately portrays how a wookie jedi would fight.
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barzillai wrote:a Wookiee Jedi.... feels like you're playing a Wookiee with anger issues.... wookiee jedi with anger issues?  wouldn't that make him a Sith?
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Some good stuff here folks. I guess I never really looked at him. High damage output is always great.
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1 well placed seww and you are going to take out alot more than 35 points, sure you may take him out, but it will be worth it.
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FlyingArrow wrote:With Momentum and Rolling Cleave... better not be standing next to anything he can kill in two swipes.
For example, an R7 standing next to, say, Darth Bane. Or worse, an R7 and a Mouse next to Darth Bane.
Lightsaber Sweep to attack all three. First, kill the R7 in 2 hits. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Rolling Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Cleave on Darth Bane - two attacks with Momentum.
Attack the Mouse (if the Splash didn't kill it already). Say we miss the first attack, hit the second. Splash twice on Darth Bane.
Attack Darth Bane. Two attacks with Momentum.
That's 6 attacks on Darth Bane for 30 damage each. Plus 4 chances at splash damage. 220 potential damage in one activation. That's dependent on the rolls all falling the right way, of course, but wow. And he'd have to roll splash damage on himself 10 times in that ordeal, too. Dont forget the Wookiee is going to be rolling 10 splash saves as well. And heaven help you if youre facing a riposter/djem so'er. However; good points on the rolling cleave/momentum. Totally forgot about those two points.
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You obviously have to balance out how much damage you will take yourself, but in this situation, it is completely worth it. What's 90 dam taken vs 220 given?
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Sithborg wrote:You obviously have to balance out how much damage you will take yourself, but in this situation, it is completely worth it. What's 90 dam taken vs 220 given? It's basically a suicide mission regardless. That 220 damage is based on making all of the rolls, each of which is probably about 50/50. Maybe as high as 75%, depending on the enemy's defense. While 220 is the potential output, 100+ is more reasonable to be expected. Take 50 damage from splash yourself, and then you're in the enemy's face ready to be struck down. But if it's a big beat you're going after - yeah, it's worth it.
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creme_brule wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:... And he'd have to roll splash damage on himself 10 times in that ordeal, too. Dont forget the Wookiee is going to be rolling 10 splash saves as well.... 
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FlyingArrow wrote:Sithborg wrote:You obviously have to balance out how much damage you will take yourself, but in this situation, it is completely worth it. What's 90 dam taken vs 220 given? It's basically a suicide mission regardless. That 220 damage is based on making all of the rolls, each of which is probably about 50/50. Maybe as high as 75%, depending on the enemy's defense. While 220 is the potential output, 100+ is more reasonable to be expected. Take 50 damage from splash yourself, and then you're in the enemy's face ready to be struck down. But if it's a big beat you're going after - yeah, it's worth it. Mara Jade functions in a similar way: high damage output, then left like a sitting duck to take the brunt of the damage. Now, granted, she deals her damage in a very different way, and can be a bit more survivable, but the point is that big damage sacrificial pieces can have a place in the meta. If the Wookiee Jedi can put a ton of damage on your opponent's main damage dealer, then that's awesome! Even better, if you're going up against a Republic squad and the guy foolishly leaves his R2 Astromech next to his big beat, have some fun tearing them to shreds! Lol
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