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corranhorn
Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:41:37 PM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
Selkath it is.

I've been spending time on quality control & I've been redoing/rediscovering some cards I either never released or didn't like the first time through; I may have to whip them up here.

Speaking of cards, as I've been revieing/redoing, I've been looking at some Jedi that were council members and a thought came to mind. Council members were "a group of twelve wise and powerful Jedi Masters who were elected to guide the Order." Now, I've been looking at Master of the Force as a force ability and looked at who in WOTC had it. It was usually the high end bad azzes but not always consistant; only 3 Yoda's, 2 Palp'ss, 1 Vader yet no Mace. Not a very consistant showing, yet I thought shouldn't High Council members be powerful enough to have MOTF? Shaak Ti JM has it but no Mace? I'm just wondering who would qualify as a MOTF? .... or is that more of "this version gets This and that version gets That FP?'


Do I smell an awesome Mace custom brewing?


Seriously, though, I think it comes down to 3 factors. First, MotF is really more for consular types, who have a deep understanding of and power with the Force itself (At least, that's how I see it). Second, with pieces like Shaak Ti, it really comes down to more of a stat design issue than a flavor issue. Third, every facet of a character can't be represented in one miniature, and Mace's lightsaber abilities have come first on the few Maces that have come out since MotF started being put on a lot of pieces.
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Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:09:00 PM
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Well, I have a new batch of cards. These don't seem to be lending themselves to themes, so I'll push that to the side and just send them out ... in a day or so. Still on vacation so no hurry. I've got some ... interesting pieces coming up.
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Posted: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:25:21 AM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
Well, I have a new batch of cards. These don't seem to be lending themselves to themes, so I'll push that to the side and just send them out ... in a day or so. Still on vacation so no hurry. I've got some ... interesting pieces coming up.



Oooh! I'm officially enticed! Woot
surf_rider56
Posted: Monday, January 7, 2013 10:47:24 PM
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Ok, so here we are at the end of the holday vacation; lots of reading, TV, family, and holiday cleanup ... and I've done a lot of surfing and found some neat stuff. I've also been cleaning up my older finished cards and found some stuff that never got released or I wasn't happy with the first time round. Too much stuff that's all over the map so no theme this time round.

I call this group my Rogue's Gallery. Let's get into these things .... in no order;


Abyssin Black Sun Enforcer I cobbled this together from a good head/hands for the Abyssin; you can always use a new Abyssin.





Borkus the Dishwasher I saw this pic ... 0 to card in less than 10 minutes. Obviously only for people with a sense of humor, but you can only use "We Don't Serve ...." as a SA in so many situations. It's amusing ..... BigGrin





Clawdite Infiltrator I've actually had this for a few months, it seemed like a good time to release it.





Dathomir Witch It was such a great pic I had to use it; called her a Dathomir With just to slightly differentiate her from the WOTC Nightsister.





Draag Demolitions Expert I've avoided using this pic because I was hoping for a better one. I kinda like "Arrpgant Barv" myself ......





Espo Patrolman I've got one Espo and I'm doing a few Corporate Sector pieces (sorta doing a mini subfaction.)





Fosh Recon Scout Nice pic and I wanted to give Recon to the OR.





Geonosian Brain Worm I'm wondering about this piece; every WOTC piece that has Dominate is obviously overpriced, but is it really doable/usable? We'll see .....





Herglic Cantina Bouncer Not too many Herglics so why not ....





Hutt Cartel Associate Just a grungy kind of human; exactly who would hang with Hutts. I kinda like the flavor text ..... Cool





Jedi Artisan Felanil Baaks I liked the idea of the Jedi Artisan, and this is what I came up with.





Jedi Knight Kina Ha Kina was incredibly difficult to put together but I thought the pic game out nicely. A strange Jedi indeed.





Jedi Master Coleman Kcaj I was cleaning up/out my Republic cards and came across the Coleman's; I'd created Trebor 3 years ago and waved it in the WOTC forum, cleaned him up and here he is. Kcaj was created a few months ago when I was on my Ongree kick.





Jedi Master Coleman Trebor More of a Diplomat than a fighter, he was tricky to do. I don't think the non-unique Vurk WOTC did was a good representation of him (if that was supposed to be him.)





Jedi Master Shado Vao I didn't think the WOTC piece was really worth it, so I tried to redo him. I like my piece better yet was surprised he actually came out more expensive ... go figure ...





Jedi Master T'ra Saa I couldn't figure out a true Neti ability that wasn't related to emplacement (or root) in some way, so I concentrated more on her Jedi abilities; I may revisit this card down the road.





Lietenant Myrsk A piece that inspired my Corporate Sector binge; his SA's amuse me .... and he's a smart-aleck after my own heart.





Moff Trachta A cobbled together pic of a character I don't know much about but it was amusing extrapolating.





Nediji Black Sun Assassin A bird assassin just seems ... strange, which is why I went here. I saw a pic of what I presume was a Nediji somewhere in a background of some Darth but can't remember where.





Neimoidian Rogue Someday I may make a non-cowardly Neimoidian.





Q‘Anilia, Seer of the First Watch Circle The V-Set Seer didn't seem right to me, and do all Miralukans have to have Intuition and/or Surprise move? Farsight could be interesting I think.





Rebel Advance Scout Took awhile to find legs for this girls upper half. I thought Spotter & Targeting was an interesting combo.





SBI Agent A Selkath on request, and the Republics Intel Agency to boot.





Senate Courier Is a mobile Relay Orders a broken idea? Seems possible, but a nasty idea anyway.





Trill, Rakatan Force Hound Been reading Dawn of the Jedi again; may be doinf more Jed'aii soon.




Voss Mystic The Mystic is another excuse to use Force Sight, besides being another Voss.





Well I hope one and all like them. Would love the Silent Majority to speak up and would love any and all comments, good and bad, as usual.


Peace. BlooMilk


PS - Are the cards more uniform looking (names & numbers/ SA's and FP's lined up, centered and cleaner looking? I'm trying some new, standardized things.) Quality Control is a Pain!
kobayashimaru
Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:25:26 AM
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This is the best batch! Im liking the direction that many of these are taking, and looking forward to corporate sector subfaction.
The jedi are very much appreciated! Now I have an even better stat card for the awesome customs that Lord Ball made for me many moons ago (those are the best customs in my republic collection!)

Im particularly liking the Clawdite and Selkath SBI cards, this is pure genius!
surf_rider56
Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:07:12 AM
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kobayashimaru wrote:
This is the best batch! Im liking the direction that many of these are taking, and looking forward to corporate sector subfaction.
The jedi are very much appreciated! Now I have an even better stat card for the awesome customs that Lord Ball made for me many moons ago (those are the best customs in my republic collection!)

Im particularly liking the Clawdite and Selkath SBI cards, this is pure genius!


Well, I've got 1-2 more Corporate Sector cards left. I'm curious, neither the Clawdite or SBI cards has anything new (I created those new SA's years ago) so why did they strike you as interesting? Just that particular combination of cards?
corranhorn
Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:57:09 AM
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Excellent batch here!

I'm with koba, the Selkath and Clawdite are both cool! Maybe they aren't new but I've never seen them before and they are very cool abilities.

I like Brokus, shouldn't he be Unique?
Dathomir Witch is a good idea, cool stats too!
Isn't Brutality pointless on the Espo Patrolman? He only has 10 hp...
Brain worm was a good idea, time to find a mini for it!
Heheheh, I love the flavor text on the Hutt Cartel Associate.
Is the Duro Jedi artisan based on the artwork in the JatM? Cool piece, but I think LU might be a bit too powerful. (Maybe a shorter range?)
Haha, should Coleman Trebor really have LSDef? He had the most epic deflection failure I've ever seen. Tongue
Farsight is a really good idea for an ability, nice work! ThumpUp
To be honest, I'm not so sure about that Senate Courier. It seems to be too good for 9 points. Maybe change it to Speed 8?


surf_rider56
Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:32:25 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Excellent batch here!

I'm with koba, the Selkath and Clawdite are both cool! Maybe they aren't new but I've never seen them before and they are very cool abilities.

I like Brokus, shouldn't he be Unique?
Dathomir Witch is a good idea, cool stats too!
Isn't Brutality pointless on the Espo Patrolman? He only has 10 hp...
Brain worm was a good idea, time to find a mini for it!
Heheheh, I love the flavor text on the Hutt Cartel Associate.
Is the Duro Jedi artisan based on the artwork in the JatM? Cool piece, but I think LU might be a bit too powerful. (Maybe a shorter range?)
Haha, should Coleman Trebor really have LSDef? He had the most epic deflection failure I've ever seen. Tongue
Farsight is a really good idea for an ability, nice work! ThumpUp
To be honest, I'm not so sure about that Senate Courier. It seems to be too good for 9 points. Maybe change it to Speed 8?




Well, lets see

Brokus - Duhhh! You're right
Espo - Double Duhhh - ment to make him 30
Artisan - yes, now that I think on it, 1 adjacent character would be better.
Trebor. A true conundrum; he Should have been able to deflect it, shouldn't he? I guess even a Jedi Master can be surprised.
Courier I was more concerned about a Relay Orders dashing about the battlefield. A Speed 8 might mitigate that.

That's for the constructive critique and pointing out the trees when I'm staring at the forest.
corranhorn
Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:30:29 AM
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Maybe Dooku used some sort of dark side influence on him.

Haha, I just need some excuse so I don't get laughed out of the game when I explain who this Trebor mini is. Tongue Nice thing about custom stats for him is that we have a mini for him already. I like your stats for him a lot, Surprise Move fits his jump to the balcony really well! ThumpUp No Niman?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 5:29:03 AM
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@Surf,
I found the Selkath and the Clawdite to be really well balanced pieces, something I could play as is with the older WOTC sets and something i might find in an official WotC booster and think to myself: "This is alright, I didnt get the rare/very rare I wanted, but these uncommons make it all good." BigGrin

Coming back to neti racial ability, I think the Neti ability would have to be something to do with terrain types: This character is +1ATK/+2DEF in impassable terrain, and ignores difficult and impassable terrain. This character is considered a wall after its activation for the purposes of targetting and line of sight.
---The theory with this is, you can change it up to reflect different aged Neti, since they slowly become trees/can coma into a tree.

Im not sure I like the Kaminoan jedi; is it 'cannonical'? The reason I dislike it, is because its existence would disagree with EP II: "There is no trace of Kamino in the Jedi Archives." That said, I think it could easily be some other kind of female jedi build. BigGrin

On the related tangent of custom ideas, a pre-tfu kazdan paratus or a Bultar Swan custom would be cool to see, as would a Voolif Monn custom (I know theres an official Wolf Sazen and Voolif, but they werent that cool). The Conclave of Kessel would be an excellent mini set to make come to think of it... BigGrin Has Sha'gi been made yet (from Tartakovsky clone wars)? Are there any generic jedi apprentice customs/models? It would be cool to make one and have them synergise with knights, masters, generals and so on.
I also note the current state of the Seps meta; they seem to be lacking in the midpoint beatstick region. Some force apprentices/Dooku's Acolyte customs would be cool, maybe a Quarren Defector/ generic Defected Jedi?

For droids, I think the main area for innovation are scrap droids/cobbled together contraptions and industrial droids. Scrap droids could have affinity with Kazdan Paratus, or gain squad assault and swarm. A conjoined R2 unit recently turned up in a RPG session, which was really neat and something Id not seen before.
surf_rider56
Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:58:20 AM
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kobayashimaru wrote:
@Surf,
I found the Selkath and the Clawdite to be really well balanced pieces, something I could play as is with the older WOTC sets and something i might find in an official WotC booster and think to myself: "This is alright, I didnt get the rare/very rare I wanted, but these uncommons make it all good." BigGrin

Coming back to neti racial ability, I think the Neti ability would have to be something to do with terrain types: This character is +1ATK/+2DEF in impassable terrain, and ignores difficult and impassable terrain. This character is considered a wall after its activation for the purposes of targetting and line of sight.
---The theory with this is, you can change it up to reflect different aged Neti, since they slowly become trees/can coma into a tree.

Im not sure I like the Kaminoan jedi; is it 'cannonical'? The reason I dislike it, is because its existence would disagree with EP II: "There is no trace of Kamino in the Jedi Archives." That said, I think it could easily be some other kind of female jedi build. BigGrin

On the related tangent of custom ideas, a pre-tfu kazdan paratus or a Bultar Swan custom would be cool to see, as would a Voolif Monn custom (I know theres an official Wolf Sazen and Voolif, but they werent that cool). The Conclave of Kessel would be an excellent mini set to make come to think of it... BigGrin Has Sha'gi been made yet (from Tartakovsky clone wars)? Are there any generic jedi apprentice customs/models? It would be cool to make one and have them synergise with knights, masters, generals and so on.
I also note the current state of the Seps meta; they seem to be lacking in the midpoint beatstick region. Some force apprentices/Dooku's Acolyte customs would be cool, maybe a Quarren Defector/ generic Defected Jedi?

For droids, I think the main area for innovation are scrap droids/cobbled together contraptions and industrial droids. Scrap droids could have affinity with Kazdan Paratus, or gain squad assault and swarm. A conjoined R2 unit recently turned up in a RPG session, which was really neat and something Id not seen before.


Thanks for the comments on the Selkath and Clawdite. Lets see, on the other comments.

THe Neti - I'm thinking maybe if she's lowered to a certain Hit Point range (maybe 30-40) she becomes more tree-like. That metamorphosis bit is a bit tricky.

Kina Ha is indeed in the Star Wars EU. A strange story, but she was mention in the book Order 66 and popped up in the book 501st.

Interestingly enough, I have a Voolif done/finished but I never released him since I finished it just when the WOTC version came out (I also have Soar Bulq, Poggle, and Sev'Rance Tann done too but never released them.) I do have a few other Dark Jedi I could release .... please .... No Shaggy Scared

Kazdan .... Hmmm ... can't tell you, I'd have to lightsaber you .....

Droids ... yes, well, there's always D-Squad!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:34:58 PM
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I really like koba's ideas for the Neti racial ability. Becoming a wall is an awesome idea.

On courier, that's what I meant by too good, haha. Relay orders with speed that high would be crazy! Woot
surf_rider56
Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:17:03 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
I really like koba's ideas for the Neti racial ability. Becoming a wall is an awesome idea.

On courier, that's what I meant by too good, haha. Relay orders with speed that high would be crazy! Woot


That may have to wait for another card. Old Neti's turning into tree's ... sounds like an SA I'm not ready for.

On a Side Note I adjusted Borkus, the Espo Patrolman, the Jedi Artisan, and the Senate Courier.
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:02:18 AM
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Well, I was inspired by some ideas from Koba and sorta pushed into some other stuff. Normally, if the V-Set beats me to something I back off, (ex. Poggle) and ... if I think of it first, well BigGrin but I was asked about Dark Jedi/Acolytes and I'd made a few but never released them. I'd also made a Kazdan from when he was "nomal" but never released him. So, because someone asked about Bultar Swan and the Dark Acolytes needed a leader, I came up with a Bonus mini set. Only regret is its mostly Seps who don't really need help but whatever .....


Jedi Knight Bultar Swan She doesn't seem to be much but she was at the Kessel meeting (Not many good pics of the Jedi from there either. I've only done Choi.)





Jedi Master Kazdan Paratus Even sane, Kazdan was a strange lil Jedi.





Dark Acolyte Kadrian Sey This is literally one of my oldest cards from when I'd make a mini for each custom card. I updated the pic and gave it the newer WOTC background. Used the Zabrak fringer with an added lightsaber.





Dark Acolyte Saato As I was researching the Dark Acolytes, I bumped into her ... and she actually had a decent pic to boot. Never played that vid game so I'd never heard of her.





Dark Acolyte Sev'Rance Tann Again, one of my oldest cards updated. Used a Young Jedi Knight witha blue skin tone added.





Dark Acolyte Sora Bulq I'd first created this about 4-5 years ago when I saw the Lost Twenty version; that version didn't seem powerful enough since Sora was supposed to be one of the best Duelists in the Jedi.





Tyranus, Lord of the Dark Acolytes ... well, the Dark Acolytes needed a leader ....





Poggle the Lesser Like Sora, I'd made this after the Lost Twenty version. I'd already updated it but the V-Setters made a new one so I wasn't going to release it ... aww the heck with it why not .... ThumpUp





Well, here's your mini set. Comments, as usual, appreciated.

I go back to work next week and I have a few books to read and a game or two to watch. Enjoy the cards.

Peace

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You do very nice work surf_ride56. I must admit though, after I saw that you did Borkus the dishwasher, I was hoping you'd do a Clone Commando Captain Gregor.
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:03:08 PM
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You do very nice work surf_ride56. I must admit though, after I saw that you did Borkus the dishwasher, I was hoping you'd do a Clone Commando Captain Gregor.


Patience, Padawan, patience ...... BlooMilk

You're new here. I hope you enjoy the cards and would love comments on anything you like ... or dislike BigGrin

Cheers
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You're new here. I hope you enjoy the cards and would love comments on anything you like ... or dislike


Yes I do enjoy your customs. I've gone over all 22 pages of your customs and I like your work.

I've been getting into doing some custom work of my own with my friend Editor. If I know how to put an image on this post, I'd show you some of our work.



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@den, by the way (Not sure if you're aware), but you can make customs on here. It'd give me something to look at until you post your cards! BigGrin

@surf,

I like your version of Sora a lot, but he seems a bit overcosted. Low base stats for cost and really nothing to make up for them.

LOVE that Tyranus. ThumbsUp Awesome stats, great pick as Dark Acolyte leader (I figured you were going for Sora but Tryanus fits better), and it's good to see a Dooku in the high point zone! He was a dueling beast, after all.


Your Poggle is cool, good work! I like him as least as much as the Vset version! Species Pride is an excellent idea for an SA, it'd be cool if you started spreading it around since you make so many species specific customs! ThumpUp

Bultar is a nice piece. Don't know much about the character but I'd definitely use her!


Seriously, don't worry about covering areas the Vsets have. I'd say you are at least as good a designer as that team is, and regardless it's always cool to see different versions of the same character!
surf_rider56
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:21:07 PM
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corranhorn wrote:


@surf,

I like your version of Sora a lot, but he seems a bit overcosted. Low base stats for cost and really nothing to make up for them.

LOVE that Tyranus. ThumbsUp Awesome stats, great pick as Dark Acolyte leader (I figured you were going for Sora but Tryanus fits better), and it's good to see a Dooku in the high point zone! He was a dueling beast, after all.


Your Poggle is cool, good work! I like him as least as much as the Vset version! Species Pride is an excellent idea for an SA, it'd be cool if you started spreading it around since you make so many species specific customs! ThumpUp

Bultar is a nice piece. Don't know much about the character but I'd definitely use her!


Seriously, don't worry about covering areas the Vsets have. I'd say you are at least as good a designer as that team is, and regardless it's always cool to see different versions of the same character!


Regarding Sora - I think it's the Vaapad that makes it waaay expensive, otherwise he'd just a beatstick.

Tyranus - i was worried that his card was too busy; I actually was on the fence - Turn to the Dark Side or Dark Inspiration, decided the Sith Lightning was nastier.

Poggle - a couple of my cards have Species Pride; the Gamorrean & Tusken Headmen, the Jawa Shaman, & the Ssi-ruu Leader ... seems a good general purpose SA.

Bultar was a request, but she seems like she's hardly woth a unique, but hey, one man's drink ....

The V-Set's - I think I move too fast sometimes and I'm one guy. They think long and hard about pieces, playtest (which I usually Don't) and their Quality control is better. X heads are better than one, but I like to think I'm an alternative if nothing more ... and the Silent Majority RPG'ers seem to love me, godz knows why BlooMilk

I'm still looking at 1-2 more Dark Acolytes - if I can find decent picks ....


@den25 - try the sight out for post your customs, the Good, Bad, and Ugly come here ( ...and I score a perfect 3 for 3 on that one Wink )
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LOVE Moff Trachta! That was a GREAT comic book series he was in.
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