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Whoops! He does grant FR 1, I missed that.,..I revise my earlier opinion, he's pretty cool.
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kezzamachine wrote:I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular... He didn't really "smoke" Vader, though. At best it was an even duel.
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corranhorn wrote:kezzamachine wrote:I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular... He didn't really "smoke" Vader, though. At best it was an even duel. The way I always think of it, since Vader was one of the best killers of his time, Vader was taking it easy on his son hoping to turn him rather than kill him. Using Leia as a ploy to make him give into the Dark Side, but Luke's vicious assault was unexpected and caught Vader off guard; and he was unable to really recover from Luke's constant attacks.
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:corranhorn wrote:kezzamachine wrote:I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular... He didn't really "smoke" Vader, though. At best it was an even duel. The way I always think of it, since Vader was one of the best killers of his time, Vader was taking it easy on his son hoping to turn him rather than kill him. Using Leia as a ploy to make him give into the Dark Side, but Luke's vicious assault was unexpected and caught Vader off guard; and he was unable to really recover from Luke's constant attacks. Orrrrrr Luke is a BOSS
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Both. Vader wanted to turn Luke, not kill him. But he certainly didn't intend to lose his hand.
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So in the upcoming v-set there might be a new Luke that can be viable for NR besides master of the order?
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DARPH NADER wrote:+1, it would be nice to get playable Luke and Hantauns. Hauntaun aint bad. I think with a good camaraderie, he may see play again. Many have stated that he's a good swap for Han Solo, Rebel General, as his CE allows him to mobile attack without worrying about difficult terrain... which is nice for a large mobile attacking speed 8 piece. Luke taun on the other hand stinks... and not just on the outside. The faction doesn't doesn't offer him much in the way of offensive boosts... so the best you can really do is give him twin attack with mobile, which just isn't enough to make him really worth playing. EDIT Found this comment i posted 3 years ago: 8/26/2010 6:56 PM Dont forget you can haunt him or use yoda of degobah. A battery + chagarin lets you crit at a rang for 40 or adjacent for 50. Theres something to be said about the ability to auto crit. Still don't like him, but hes not terrible in that setup. --- So, yeah, can be boosted a little, but i still think he sucks.
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:corranhorn wrote:kezzamachine wrote:I've said it before and I'll probably mutter it again from time to time... I'd really love to see a nice, meaty beatstick Luke for Rebel... the Luke that smoked Vader in the 6th movie. Just saying. I know its not popular... He didn't really "smoke" Vader, though. At best it was an even duel. The way I always think of it, since Vader was one of the best killers of his time, Vader was taking it easy on his son hoping to turn him rather than kill him. Using Leia as a ploy to make him give into the Dark Side, but Luke's vicious assault was unexpected and caught Vader off guard; and he was unable to really recover from Luke's constant attacks. A Luke with Ambush and Indiscriminate Rage?
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Gotta be backlash. Backlash for bringing up Leia.
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FlyingArrow wrote:Both. Vader wanted to turn Luke, not kill him. But he certainly didn't intend to lose his hand. Yeah, this is how I saw it too.
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FlyingArrow wrote:Gotta be backlash. Backlash for bringing up Leia. Nice. Maybe a new ability (Scott love those) called nN NOOOOOooo!!! They can use modern technology and put it on an old Vader now too.
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As long as I don't have to write a multi-paragraph glossary entry, I'm usually okay with it.
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Sithborg wrote:As long as I don't have to write a multi-paragraph glossary entry, I'm usually okay with it. I'm patiently waiting for the return of 'colorful' glossary texts. Quote:Savage: This character is wild and difficult to control...
Princess Leia's commander effect: Princess Leia, Hoth Commander can inspire Rebel Troops to great feats of bravery...
Vaapad Style Mastery: Mace Windu is one bad mo...
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Okay, so I'll admit I was taking some licence by saying he 'smoked' Vader. I'll downgrade that to Luke 'attacked one who was probably not wanting to kill him but rather draw him into some evil web, but somehow the mighty Sith Lord of some 19 years was at first surprised and then completely bested by a boy with about 4 years Jedi training (including a week from a 900-year old teacher, a training droid and a ghost) and lost his hand in the process of being smoked' Vader.
Nope, still can't say without using the word smoked. I'll have a rethink and get back to you.
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*spoiler alert* I'm not wildly serious - just wearing my heart on my sleeve.
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"For the first time, the thought entered Vader's consciousness that his son might best him. He was astounded by the strength Luke had acquired since their last duel, in the Cloud City - not to mention the boy's timing, which was honed to a thought's-breadth. This was an unexpected circumstance. Unexpected and unwelcome. Vader felt humiliation crawling in on the tail of his first reaction, which was surprise, and his second, which was fear. And then the edge of the humiliation curled up, to reveal bald anger. And now he wanted revenge."
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"'You are unwise to lower your defenses,' Vader warned. His anger was layered, now - he did not want to win if the boy was not battling to the fullest. But if winning meant he had to kill a boy who wouldn't fight... then he could do that, too. Only he wanted Luke to be aware of those consequences. He wanted Luke to know this was no longer just a game. This was Darkness."
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"This accusation really made Vader angry. He could tolerate much from the insolent child, but this was insufferable. He must teach this boy a lesson he would never forget, or die learning. 'Once again, you underestimate the power of the dark side ...'"
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"'I will not give you the advantage that easily.' Vader felt his intentions increasingly ambiguous in this conflict; the purity of his evil was being compromised. The boy was clever indeed - Vader knew he must move with extreme caution now."
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"'Never!' he screamed. His lightsaber flew off Vader's belt into his own hand, igniting as it came to him.
He rushed to his father with a frenzy he'd never known. Nor had Vader. The gladiators battled fiercely, sparks flying from the clash of their radiant weapons, but it was soon evident that the advantage was all Luke's. And he was pressing it. They locked swords, body to body. When Luke pushed Vader back to break the clinch, the Dark Lord hit his head on an over-hanging beam in the cramped space. He stumbled backward even farther, out of the low-hanging area. Luke pursued him relentlessly.
Blow upon blow, Luke forced Vader to retreat - back, onto the bridge that crossed the vast, seemingly bottomless shaft to the power core. Each stroke of Luke's saber pummeled Vader, like accusations, like screams, like shards of hate.
The Dark Lord was driven to his knees. He raised his blade to block yet another onslaught - and Luke slashed Vader's right hand off at the wrist."
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Favourite scene in all SW.
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U seriously had to write 4 posts? Couldn't edited it into first one?
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komix wrote:U seriously had to write 4 posts? Couldn't edited it into first one?
First rule of the Internet...don't antagonize the mods! Actually, it has to do with not clicking on "Gentleman.com"...
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corranhorn wrote:komix wrote:U seriously had to write 4 posts? Couldn't edited it into first one?
First rule of the Internet...don't antagonize the mods! Actually, it has to do with not clicking on "Gentleman.com"... Looks like I'm going solo against the world :P
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