Sounds like a good idea to try, I haven't had any luck with that type of squad (even using the Klats) but I think you would have a better chance.

What about giving it a special ability like-
Triplets [after reinforcements, your squad can not contain more than 3 characters named Klatooinian assassin] haha

Honestly, though, those Klats are amazing, but I don't think they are as abusable as things like Daala, honestly. I mean, I didn't hear anyone complain before the TN Regional was won by Klats, and the TN Meta is very... Different... lol

And btw, my Regional winning all fringe squad was very similar. I took Han Smuggler and a Rodian Assassin, along with more acts and more door control instead of Zam and a couple more Klats. But I didn't see a big hoopla over my squad. (Btw my squad beats his head to head most of the time and can get 30 activations, so it has a much better shot vs Daala)

I have triple override with option for more. I just lock him out of gambit. Likely a 2 point win, but I'd have to really screw up to lose.

I think that part of it might also be that Scruffy has been saying for a long time that the Klats are overpowered/undercosted, and now he's working on proving it.

wouldn't matter on jabbas palace, the square I am referring to putting zam on is adjacent to the gambit spot so it wouldn't matter where he put his piece she costs more then anything in his entire squad and it is behind walls, so he would have to be adjacent to shoot her

And to be clear - it's not me saying "my squad is better!" I actually don't really like the squad I won with to be honest. I feel it's all very match-up dependent. His squad really can't handle lots of activation swarms, especially Daala. My squad fairs better against those. His squad has better matchups than mine against certain other squad types. I still feel I win the head to head match 90% of the time. In the situation Deaths_Baine described, he forgets that at the end of the game I outactivate and we are tied on gambit, but then I still have all my attackers left and I only need to kill one piece of his. (Not that I would let it get to that anyway). Theory crafting aside - it all does't matter. I just was pointing out that people didn't make a big fuss over my squad, but they are his squad, and there are many similarities.

All that aside - yes Klats are undercosted. It's all semantics, (what is broken? What is tier one? What is undercosted?), but to me undercosted is a step below broken. I think they might even be VERY undercosted but not quite broken.

I think they needed to lose (or change) at least 3 of the following 5 to be "priced normal",
lose (or change) 2 to be just "really good"

cloaked ---> stealth
10 hp
Jedi hatred
Self-destruct 20 --->Self destruct 10
attack 12 ---> 8-10

I heard the comparison to Nom Bombs, but the comparison falls quite short. Nom Bombs are completely neutered by multiple methods. Disruptive, distraction, Vong Sense with Force Sense, and It's a trap all make them lose BOTH super-stealth AND self-destruct. Currently there are very few methods to target cloaked while not adjacent, and currently there is NO way to defuse a bomb that has self destruct on their card (as opposed to a CE). So - even going with the fact that Kalts main deal is self-dtesruct AND cloaked (nasty combo alone), even still klats have 30 hp (why?) 20 base damage (I get this one - no czerka twin shenanigans), Jedi hatred (why?) and a TWELVE attack (WHY!?!). Nothing is even close to those stats that can get superstealth through Nom, but Klats have a BETTER form of it (not susceptible to many things Nom bombs are), and have all that other icing. And they are SHOOTERS, which most Nom Bombs are not.

So yes - Klats are . . . less than ideal design (to be nice), but we have them.

And this isn't new. Luke Cook spent a season coming up with many forms of Klats squads (Republic Death Shot klats, OR Bastila Klats, swapping Imp Klats, etc), and did quite well with several.

This big hoopla over Klats is just happening now? Your late to the party. We've moved on.

well, I doubt scruffy would play the game that way either, but it is possible that he doesn't leave you anything to shoot at on that map :) but you are right it is all theory crafting anyways so like you said not a big deal.

I also had someone tell me that the only things that have won a regional/ major tournament this year were the daala variations and talon-all fringe squads so far that is pretty crazy to me.

I think this is just like daala was in the beginning stages with people calling for erratas and even bans, but the community came together and PLAYED the squad into the ground and found a real problem, that is my suggestion for the klats as well. Let us see if they keep winning and have some of the other top players play with either tims squad or scruffy's squad or heck even one they come up with themselves and if it keeps dominating and go from there.

It isn't surprising that Daala and Talon are winning. They are the new hotness. Next regional season it will be 2 or 3 new pieces that dominate the regional season to be forgotten when the next new hotness comes out. Does nobody remember when Storm Commando's and Mace dominated the regionals? And where are those pieces now. Still playable, but no where near as popular because people move on.

The Klats are good. No one is arguing that. But so is P. Leia, R2 Astromech, Thrawn, etc. There is nothing wrong with good (or even great) pieces. Without them, our game would get very boring.