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Fixing the Bland and Broken: REVISIONS! Options
countrydude82487
Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:42:33 PM
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Weeks wrote:
just a note if yobuck is changed to be on a large base he will get 0 play


although i agree i think that is their aim on some things. They are attem-pting to make more figures playable, and make others less played aka: yobuck and gowk
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:28:51 AM
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Weeks wrote:
just a note if yobuck is changed to be on a large base he will get 0 play


Its that or up his cost significantly. I still think with a large base he will be strong, but less so.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:19:11 PM
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Segastorm
Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:54:47 PM
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Vader's Apprentice, Unleashed
Cost:62

HP: 130
Def: 22 He was harder to kill than he was made
Attack:13
Damage:20

Special abilities

Unique
Melee attack
Double attack
Jedi Hunter suits the character
loner suits the character
rapport( cost one less when in the same squad as a character whose name contains Vader)



Force powers, Force 3, Force Renewal 1 He was more powerful in the force than the origional

Lightsaber defense He has to have this from what he did on the imperialized Raxus Prime
Force Lightning 4
Force Lightning 5
Master of the force 2
He was more powerful in the force than the origional
Lily_Wan
Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:28:08 PM
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Vodo-Siosk Baas
Cost: 44
Faction: OR
Hit Points: 100 (-20)
Defense: 22
Attack: 15
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique, Melee, Double, Parry
Force Powers:
F2 (-F3)
FR1 (addition, for his old MotF2 and new CE)
Force Alter
Force Spirit 4
MotF2
Commander Effect:
Old Republic allies with a Force rating can spend this character's Force points. (A character still can't spend Force points more than once per turn and can't combine its own Force points with this character's.)
-CE reflects the character's status and boosts the faction.


Old Republic Recruit
Cost: 4 (-1)
Faction: OR
Hit Points: 10
Defense: 13
Attack: 5
Damage: 10
Special Abilities:
Militia: Also counts as Fringe for the purpose of commander effects
(see flavour text)
saber1
Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:50:04 AM
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Vodo-Siosk Baas Lily Wan
Old Republic Recruit Lily Wan
Segastorm
Posted: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:57:40 AM
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Vader's apprentice, Redeemed
Cost:72(+24)
HP: 140 (+10)
Def: 23 (+1)
Atk:11
Damage:20

Special abilities
Unique
Melee Attack
Double attack
Soresu Style

Force Powers,force 3, force renewal 1
Force Push 4
Force Push 5
lightsaber throw 2
force repulse 3
force grip 2
Master of the force 2
saber1
Posted: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:19:21 AM
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Vader's Apprentice, Redeemed Segastorm
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:34:23 AM
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:00:34 AM
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:36:18 AM
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:16:45 AM
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Darth Krayt CerousMutor
Cost: 76
Faction: Sith
Hit Points: 130
Defense: 21
Attack: 14
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique, Melee, Triple Attack
Pilot
Deadly Attack
Dark Inspiration
Vonduun Crab Armor 6
Force Powers
Force 2, Force Renewal 1, MotF2
Force Lightning 2
Lightsaber Assault
Lightsaber Sweep
Commander Effect
Followers within 6 squares gain Extra Attack.


changes to keep him more accurate to the character and less of a glass cannon

(can anyone put this on a template for me? ThumbsUp )
Damore
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:41:33 AM
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General Grievous, Jedi Hunter
Cost: 52 (+10)
Faction: Separatists
Hit Points: 120 (+20) No defensive powers vs ranged attacks.
Defense: 20 (+1)
Attack: +12 (+2) closer to newer Grievous'
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique. Cyborg. Melee Attack.
Quadruple Attack
Double Attack. Twin Attack Replaces Quadruple Attack
Parry
Amush Taught to catch Jedi off guard.
Lightsaber Duelist
Jedi Hunter Should have had this from the start.
Wall Climber One Grievous needs this.
Force Powers Never liked him having Force points.
Force 1


I always wanted to update this piece because this Grievous should have been a real jedi hunter. The first time you see him in the Clones Wars mini episodes he takes on 5 jedi, and was winning until the clones show up.

Edited cost to from 46 to 52.
Lord_Ball
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:03:38 AM
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Weeks wrote:
just a note if yobuck is changed to be on a large base he will get 0 play

Why? On a large base He'd be able to galloping attack more figures (potentially) or force the enemy to spread out further to avoid such devastation. He'll just start slaughtering enemies a turn or 2 later than currently.
Segastorm
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:38:12 AM
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Lord_Ball wrote:
Weeks wrote:
just a note if yobuck is changed to be on a large base he will get 0 play

Why? On a large base He'd be able to galloping attack more figures (potentially) or force the enemy to spread out further to avoid such devastation. He'll just start slaughtering enemies a turn or 2 later than currently.


Yes, but Yobuck is used in swap squads and if he becomes a large base size, his usage will decrease dramatically since Panaka allows only medium sized characters to swap.
Lord_Ball
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:29:06 AM
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Segastorm wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:
Weeks wrote:
just a note if yobuck is changed to be on a large base he will get 0 play

Why? On a large base He'd be able to galloping attack more figures (potentially) or force the enemy to spread out further to avoid such devastation. He'll just start slaughtering enemies a turn or 2 later than currently.


Yes, but Yobuck is used in swap squads and if he becomes a large base size, his usage will decrease dramatically since Panaka allows only medium sized characters to swap.


I get that, but what I'm saying is the characters individual usefulness would increase with a large base, even though his squad usefulness would decrease slightly. Hence why I think the "0 play" is a gross over exageration.
saber1
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:02:57 AM
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The Large base would limit the character, which is the point. However, as Lord Ball stated, it would allow more gallop options. The problem I see with Yobuck is galloping a bunch of enemies, doubling one, then swapping in Rex or Dash for a one-round kill of most people. Removing swapping removes the "deep strike" swap threat.

Or, we can discuss how deep into the 60's he should cost with his current Medium base.
saber1
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:54:59 AM
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Damore wrote:
General Grievous, Jedi Hunter
Not sure about the cost.


The cost is quite aggressive. I'd say 50+.
komix
Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:49:09 PM
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Kir Kanos
Cost: 45 (+11)
Faction: Imperial
Hit Points: 110
Defense: 21
Attack: +13
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique, Melee Attack In comics he could shoot as well
Palpatine's Bodyguard (If a character whose name contains Emperor Palpatine is an adjacent allyand would take damage from an attack, this character can take the damage instead)
Loner (+4 Attack if no allies are within 6 squares)
Twin Attack
Double Claw Attack
Real badass at fighting adjacent enemies
Parry Fits the character
Evade Fits the character
Stealth In comics he was pretty good at hiding
Force Powers Never liked him having Force points, he relied on his skills
Force 2
Force Sense(Force 1, usable only on this character's turn; Enemies lose Stealth for the rest of the round)
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Posted: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:54:51 AM
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