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We saw what happened as a result of his foolishness, and we saw hat he became. I'm not sure what else we could really see, although I'm pretty sure I'm misreading you somehow.
I might not be clear so I'll try to more so. We see the results of his foolishness and his realization of what he did. What we don't see is how he changes into Darth Vader in the original trilogy. We know he changes and what he is both before and after the change, but not the process of the change. Last two scenes with Anakin in ROTS; him angry and in pain after his battle with Obi-One and him breaking out of the medical table and realizing what he has done. End Credits. We don't witness the change, we simply know there is one later.
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The book The Rise of Darth Vader should have been Episode 3! It's a fantastic novel, one of the best SW books out there.
Episodes 1 & 2 with splash back form 3, plus the inclusion of bits from the Darth Plagius novel should have all been done as Ep.1 and Ep.2
Love star wars so i can enjoy any of the films, but Lucas had lost the plot at this point because he had sole control IMO, he forgot what it was he started in 76/77; or better yet he tried to turn the prequels in to the original idea of Star Wars he had in the 70's. Thats' the same idea the studios said was unfilmable and would'nt work.
Thank good for us good old Brits telling him, "No, a giant frog pilot is a terrible idea!" and editing Star Wars into what we all know and love.
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CerousMutor wrote:The book The Rise of Darth Vader should have been Episode 3! It's a fantastic novel, one of the best SW books out there.
Episodes 1 & 2 with splash back form 3, plus the inclusion of bits from the Darth Plagius novel should have all been done as Ep.1 and Ep.2
Love star wars so i can enjoy any of the films, but Lucas had lost the plot at this point because he had sole control IMO, he forgot what it was he started in 76/77; or better yet he tried to turn the prequels in to the original idea of Star Wars he had in the 70's. Thats' the same idea the studios said was unfilmable and would'nt work.
Thank good for us good old Brits telling him, "No, a giant frog pilot is a terrible idea!" and editing Star Wars into what we all know and love. Very interesting so which movie did you vote for?
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Episode III, I think. II wasn't great, but the arena battle made it a bit better. I didn't care for Episode I, but it wasn't a terrible start. But III. Oh. It was wrong what they did to Grievous! 
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Cassus fett wrote:CerousMutor wrote:The book The Rise of Darth Vader should have been Episode 3! It's a fantastic novel, one of the best SW books out there.
Episodes 1 & 2 with splash back from 3, plus the inclusion of bits from the Darth Plageius novel should have all been done as Ep.1 and Ep.2
Love star wars so i can enjoy any of the films, but Lucas had lost the plot at this point because he had sole control IMO, he forgot what it was he started in 76/77; or better yet he tried to turn the prequels in to the original idea of Star Wars he had in the 70's. Thats' the same idea the studios said was unfilmable and would'nt work.
Thank good for us good old Brits telling him, "No, a giant frog pilot is a terrible idea!" and editing Star Wars into what we all know and love. Very interesting so which movie did you vote for? I couldn't vote for all three so I had to vote for AOTC. (excuse the sp)
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You know I've been thinking what if the prequal trilogy started at episode 2 (now episode 1) With Anakin meeting Padme fo the first time in it and falling in love with her we see the clones show up and the clone wars begin. Then we do episode three (2 now) and it would show more of the clone wars (basically turn Labarinth of Evil into a movie) end it like episode 3 did. Then the third movie would cover the "Dark Times" and Vaders shift to the Vader in A New Hope. Obviously we can't do this now as it screws up some canon (i'm thinking The Force Unleashed Games). But I think it would have been better the way I just described.
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Cassus fett wrote:You know I've been thinking what if the prequal trilogy started at episode 2 (now episode 1) With Anakin meeting Padme fo the first time in it and falling in love with her we see the clones show up and the clone wars begin. Then we do episode three (2 now) and it would show more of the clone wars (basically turn Labarinth of Evil into a movie) end it like episode 3 did. Then the third movie would cover the "Dark Times" and Vaders shift to the Vader in A New Hope. Obviously we can't do this now as it screws up some canon (i'm thinking The Force Unleashed Games). But I think it would have been better the way I just described. That is closer to the tale we are told by Old Ben in Ep.4. Just watch that, then think about ep 1-3...(shudder)
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pegolego wrote:Episode III, I think. II wasn't great, but the arena battle made it a bit better. I didn't care for Episode I, but it wasn't a terrible start. But III. Oh. It was wrong what they did to Grievous! Oh man gonna have to agree with the Grievous Comment
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It's been a while since I've seen RotS, what was so bad about his scene?
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corranhorn wrote:It's been a while since I've seen RotS, what was so bad about his scene? They wrecked the character set up in the animated (2d) and turned him into a little coward
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Not sure how deciding to fight the Jedi yourself instead of letting your legion of droids annihilate him is cowardly...
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corranhorn wrote:Not sure how deciding to fight the Jedi yourself instead of letting your legion of droids annihilate him is cowardly... It's the moment he drops his nuts and bolts and runs...pah he killed 4 jedi at the same time by himself! Dont get me started on the fight, yes, I know Obi used the force to time the attacks but, ti was so poorly done. Rubbish, why have another villian anyway! They wasted Maul and didnt use Dooku to his best either! Dooku should have been the droid Commander, false sith lord. Maul shouldv'e returned in the films ala the Toon Wars and been the big baddie. Anakin showed little to change in heart, after kiling dooku, suddenly he is bad?? Oh right, so he is bad now. Where was the temptation? Where was the seduction to the darkside? A couple of bad dreams and chat, and thats it?? Actually I want to change my vote, ROTS. Vader was supposed to be the Mythical beast, the dark lord. Instead, he's a whiny pretty boy who tantrums because he thinks he is hard done by. Even the Vader in the Force Unleashed games is closer to the Vader we are introduced to in the original films!
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CerousMutor wrote:corranhorn wrote:Not sure how deciding to fight the Jedi yourself instead of letting your legion of droids annihilate him is cowardly... It's the moment he drops his nuts and bolts and runs...pah he killed 4 jedi at the same time by himself! Dont get me started on the fight, yes, I know Obi used the force to time the attacks but, ti was so poorly done. Rubbish, why have another villian anyway! They wasted Maul and didnt use Dooku to his best either! Dooku should have been the droid Commander, false sith lord. Maul shouldv'e returned in the films ala the Toon Wars and been the big baddie. Anakin showed little to change in heart, after kiling dooku, suddenly he is bad?? Oh right, so he is bad now. Where was the temptation? Where was the seduction to the darkside? A couple of bad dreams and chat, and thats it?? Actually I want to change my vote, ROTS. Vader was supposed to be the Mythical beast, the dark lord. Instead, he's a whiny pretty boy who tantrums because he thinks he is hard done by. Even the Vader in the Force Unleashed games is closer to the Vader we are introduced to in the original films! i have to agree to that
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ahem..sorry about my rant lol, got caught in the moment. 
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Clones is the worst SW movie. I don't even think its close. I has some cool moments, but it has aged terribly.
The SW movies rank in this order for me:
1. Empire
2. ROTS
3. ROTJ
4. ANH
5. TPM
99521486. Clones
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What's all this bashing of the attack of the clones? What did you expect from a family science fiction movie?
The sets were awesome. You mean obi one flaying through the window haning on to the droid is not cool?
How about jango fett in armor? Zam being a changeling. You don't get a shiver down the spine when you see the clones marching for the first time on camino? The chase of obi to get jango means nothing to you?
What's wrong with you? Anakins character development (to understand the building blocks to his demise) is well executed. His Love for padme is ultimately his undoing, so can't you see the beauty of deep teenage love as they go into the arena to die side by side? You make me sick; the battle of genosis is one of the coolest star wars battle around. Honestly when is the last time you watched the movie?
The cinema exploded, we all stood up screaming when Yoda pulled out the lightsabre.
When I play star wars I relieve that movie and its characters. Attack of the clones is one of the best science fiction in recent history. Sorry you missed the plot.
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There are cool things about AotC, no doubt. But I found it such a disappointment, and that's why I voted for it. Phantom Menace is actually a lot of fun, and the interplay between Qui-Gon and Obi Wan is a big part of that. Revenge of the Sith is so epic and dark--I feel like they really nailed the tone of that movie.
But with Clones, all I can think of is the movie theater banner poster (which I actually own), which was so awesome and promised so much regarding the developing relationship between Padme and Anakin. And then the scenes between them were so wooden (and the dialogue was soooo bad), I just couldn't get invested in the relationship.
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PrimeClone wrote:What's all this bashing of the attack of the clones? What did you expect from a family science fiction movie?
The sets were awesome. You mean obi one flaying through the window haning on to the droid is not cool?
How about jango fett in armor? Zam being a changeling. You don't get a shiver down the spine when you see the clones marching for the first time on camino? The chase of obi to get jango means nothing to you?
What's wrong with you? Anakins character development (to understand the building blocks to his demise) is well executed. His Love for padme is ultimately his undoing, so can't you see the beauty of deep teenage love as they go into the arena to die side by side? You make me sick; the battle of genosis is one of the coolest star wars battle around. Honestly when is the last time you watched the movie?
The cinema exploded, we all stood up screaming when Yoda pulled out the lightsabre.
When I play star wars I relieve that movie and its characters. Attack of the clones is one of the best science fiction in recent history. Sorry you missed the plot.
Cheers You...need to get a grip. For real.
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PrimeClone wrote:What's all this bashing of the attack of the clones? What did you expect from a family science fiction movie?
The sets were awesome. You mean obi one flaying through the window haning on to the droid is not cool?
How about jango fett in armor? Zam being a changeling. You don't get a shiver down the spine when you see the clones marching for the first time on camino? The chase of obi to get jango means nothing to you?
What's wrong with you? Anakins character development (to understand the building blocks to his demise) is well executed. His Love for padme is ultimately his undoing, so can't you see the beauty of deep teenage love as they go into the arena to die side by side? You make me sick; the battle of genosis is one of the coolest star wars battle around. Honestly when is the last time you watched the movie?
The cinema exploded, we all stood up screaming when Yoda pulled out the lightsabre.
When I play star wars I relieve that movie and its characters. Attack of the clones is one of the best science fiction in recent history. Sorry you missed the plot.
Cheers I'll say this. You have a lot of passion and yes, I did not love AOTC, but it's still a star wars movie and better than 95% of the movies and tv shows that get produced. Most of us do not like it, but probably in the context of the other films especially the original 3.
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corranhorn wrote:PrimeClone wrote:What's all this bashing of the attack of the clones? What did you expect from a family science fiction movie?
The sets were awesome. You mean obi one flaying through the window haning on to the droid is not cool?
How about jango fett in armor? Zam being a changeling. You don't get a shiver down the spine when you see the clones marching for the first time on camino? The chase of obi to get jango means nothing to you?
What's wrong with you? Anakins character development (to understand the building blocks to his demise) is well executed. His Love for padme is ultimately his undoing, so can't you see the beauty of deep teenage love as they go into the arena to die side by side? You make me sick; the battle of genosis is one of the coolest star wars battle around. Honestly when is the last time you watched the movie?
The cinema exploded, we all stood up screaming when Yoda pulled out the lightsabre.
When I play star wars I relieve that movie and its characters. Attack of the clones is one of the best science fiction in recent history. Sorry you missed the plot.
Cheers You...need to get a grip. For real. I agree, I'm sorry but if you think that was well executed romance you have some serious issues. Just because a movie is cool doesn't make it good case and point Transformers (Micheal Bay). This cool = good logic is what 5 year olds use when they're argueing on the playground. The more I think about AOTC them more I realise it was the worst so if I could i'd change my vote to it from TPM
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