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swinefeld
Posted: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:42:10 PM
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Another character(s) with Lift

Sturdier than the ASP-7. Faster would be even better.

If you've never played the ASP-7, it can be a pretty useful piece and belongs in your Lobot reinforcements box. Cool


Hmm, how about a CE that gives it to Wookiees? BigGrin
Darth O
Posted: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:29:29 PM
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swinefeld wrote:
Another character(s) with Lift

Sturdier than the ASP-7. Faster would be even better.

If you've never played the ASP-7, it can be a pretty useful piece and belongs in your Lobot reinforcements box. Cool


Hmm, how about a CE that gives it to Wookiees? BigGrin


My ASP-7 had never seen play simply because it's just too fragile. I love your idea there with the Wookiees! ThumpUp
kezzamachine
Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:57:32 PM
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Viqi Shesh - Now, I can't remember where it is, but we had a big discussion on Gamers about a possibility for a Lobot-esque piece that had the 20pt Fringe reinforcements but was only for living, and had Vong collaborator or something... so the Vong could get a Lobot-type piece that could bring in only living so they didn't have to rely on a sacrilege piece like Loboto. It was a great conversation... hopefully someone can find it/make it...
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:00:34 AM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Viqi Shesh - Now, I can't remember where it is, but we had a big discussion on Gamers about a possibility for a Lobot-esque piece that had the 20pt Fringe reinforcements but was only for living, and had Vong collaborator or something... so the Vong could get a Lobot-type piece that could bring in only living so they didn't have to rely on a sacrilege piece like Loboto. It was a great conversation... hopefully someone can find it/make it...


http://www.swmgamers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=15210
kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:54:54 AM
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I've been wondering about the possibility of a Fringe/Yuuzhan Vong character that can bring in 20 points of Fringe for the Vong - similar to Lobot, but not a Cyborg. Perhaps a Peace Brigade guy, or something? Someone who boosted Brigade dudes if he brought them in, but can also bring in anyone... but who could be quite useless to most other factions, maybe? Kind of a missiles becomes plasma eel type thing (Lobot becomes ...?)

That is an idea, maybe a Viqi Shesh or Dagga Marl if they ever get around to making them. Maybe that's something to put in the idea boards.

Viqi Shesh, 30pts
Yuuzhan Vong
Hp: 40
Def: 15
Att: +7
Dam: 10
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack
Force Immunity
Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad.
Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character.
Synergy: +4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade."
Stealth
Firejelly
Thud Bug/Razor Bug???
Commander Effect
Allies whose name contains "Peace Brigade" gain Synergy (+4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade")


There's a quick rendition of what he could be. He's a stealth door-blower with Lobot's utility, but without Lobot's sacrilege (his Reinforcements must be living).

If he had Plasma Eel or something then he'd probably need to cost more. However, the thing is that he has to be pretty cheap outside of his reinforcements; that's part of the genius of the Lobot piece: he's only 7pts after his reinforcements, which makes it easy to fit him into a squad. There's a reason that Jabba the Hutt (RS) never sees play: he's 50pts, rather than 27. This guy needs to be cheap, or else he'll be too hard to use.

As is, he's a 10pt door-boomer with a very situational CE, who offers lots of good flexibility to his faction. Should he cost 28 or 29 instead? That would be for playtesting to discover.

Mando
Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:44:33 PM
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I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday about the state of the Rebel faction. The impression I've gotten with the addition of the V-sets and all the peices as a whole, is that the Rebels are kinda in the lower tier of competitve play now. The Imperials have taken a steep climb with all the V-sets, while the rebels haven't. I always saw the Rebels as the anti-imperials, and other than Disruptive, I don't see how the Rebels can really ruin the Imperials day. Thats why I came up with the idea of introducing a new SA to the Rebels, and in particular, on a Leia miniature.

Imperial Hunter (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against Imperial enemies)

This could be put on a Leia, and in WotC fashion be included in a CE. So here's a rough sketch of what I'd like to see.

Leia Organa, Rebel Leader

Cost: 14
HP:50
Def:15
Att:+7
Dmg:20

SA: Unique, Disciplined Leader, Imperial Hunter

Force: 2

CE: Rebel allies gain Imperial Hunter.


This new Leia would make for a great option for the Versatility to work on. The newest Leia from Scum and Villany allows you to replace that Leia with one of lesser cost and gain a SA from that version. So when the Rebels face the Imperials now, they have a solid option for increasing the damage output against Imperials, which makes sense, after all the Rebels did ambush the Imperials a lot and ran a war of atrition against them. The Imperials have always had good CE's that bump up defense. The Rebels on the other hand don't have much in the way of increasing damage and attack to counter that. Hence why I thin they need Imperial Hunter. It fits the faction and it similar to how the OR has Mandalorian Hunter and Sith Hunter, Vong have Droid Hunter and the YVH Droid has Vong Hunter.


I'd also like to suggest another Han Solo for the Rebels.

Captain Solo

Cost: 34
HP: 80
Def: 18
Att: +9
Dmg: 20

SA: Unique, Pilot, Accurate Shot, Cunning Attack +20, Never Tell Me the Odds.

A Han Solo with Pilot is badly needed. As Obi Wan said in Episode 4 when going to the Cantina: "some of the best star pilots can be found here". So why can't there be a Han Solo with Pilot? Not to mention, Han was proficient at swoop bike racing also in the years before the Rebels. It would be nice to have a usefull Han with Never Tell me the Odds also.
Mando-Matic
Posted: Saturday, June 2, 2012 5:18:17 PM
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I love the name "Captain Solo" as well as the stats! Although I do think he is a little under-priced. I vote for your Han with a couple of points tacked onto his cost! =)
FlyingArrow
Posted: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:02:25 PM
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Good on a Jawa, for example:

Tinkerer: Usable once on this character's turn; an adjacent lower-cost droid is considered activated.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, June 4, 2012 9:36:51 AM
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A 4-point swap fodder piece that is better than a Rodian Brute.

Klatooinian Guard, Cost 4
HP:10
Def: 15
Atk: 5
Dmg: 10

Quick Reactions, Melee Attack
kezzamachine
Posted: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:33:53 PM
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Wynn Dorvan. Need him.

Bob Chizo
Posted: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:08:38 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Wynn Dorvan. Need him.



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General_Grievous
Posted: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:15:50 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I've been wondering about the possibility of a Fringe/Yuuzhan Vong character that can bring in 20 points of Fringe for the Vong - similar to Lobot, but not a Cyborg. Perhaps a Peace Brigade guy, or something? Someone who boosted Brigade dudes if he brought them in, but can also bring in anyone... but who could be quite useless to most other factions, maybe? Kind of a missiles becomes plasma eel type thing (Lobot becomes ...?)

That is an idea, maybe a Viqi Shesh or Dagga Marl if they ever get around to making them. Maybe that's something to put in the idea boards.

Viqi Shesh, 30pts
Yuuzhan Vong
Hp: 40
Def: 15
Att: +7
Dam: 10
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack
Force Immunity
Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad.
Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character.
Synergy: +4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade."
Stealth
Firejelly
Thud Bug/Razor Bug???
Commander Effect
Allies whose name contains "Peace Brigade" gain Synergy (+4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade")


There's a quick rendition of what he could be. He's a stealth door-blower with Lobot's utility, but without Lobot's sacrilege (his Reinforcements must be living).

If he had Plasma Eel or something then he'd probably need to cost more. However, the thing is that he has to be pretty cheap outside of his reinforcements; that's part of the genius of the Lobot piece: he's only 7pts after his reinforcements, which makes it easy to fit him into a squad. There's a reason that Jabba the Hutt (RS) never sees play: he's 50pts, rather than 27. This guy needs to be cheap, or else he'll be too hard to use.

As is, he's a 10pt door-boomer with a very situational CE, who offers lots of good flexibility to his faction. Should he cost 28 or 29 instead? That would be for playtesting to discover.



+1

Though I would take her more this route (mixing some of your ideas with an older posting of mine)

Viqi Shesh
28, hp 50, def 15, ATk 8, dmg 10
SA
Unique
Diplomat
Peace Brigade
Yuuzhan Vong collaborator 
Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad.
Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character.
Relay Orders
Tizo worm(this character counts as yuuzhan vong for the purpose of commander effects)
CE
Peace brigade allies gain Tizo worm

Could give her Ooglith Masquer to make get more useful as well.

As well how about:

Peace Brigade Quartermaster
13, hp 10, def 15, ATk 5, dmg 10
SA
Peace Brigade
Yuuzhan Vong collaborator
Thud bug
Tizo worm(this character counts as yuuzhan vong for the purpose of commander effects)
CE
Peace Brigade Allies gain Vondumn Crab Armor 16 and thud bug
AudriSampson
Posted: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:35:49 PM
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New Figures:
Chief of State Daala
Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer)
Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series)
Torso Anakin (think of a Vader version of Han in Carbonite)
Max Rebo, Sy Snootles and the band
a podracer
Master Krell

Remakes
Darth Nihlus
Darth Scion
Bail Organa (something rebel)
Vodo-Siosk Baas
Master Lucian Draay
all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces.
all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters.
Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon)
Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist)
Admiral Ackbar (greatest general in the Rebellion and a worthless mini
All the unloved NR Jedi.. Wolf Sazen and the bunch
Candorous Ordo
Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)
General_Grievous
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AudriSampson wrote:
New Figures:
Chief of State Daala
Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer)
Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series)

Remakes
Darth Nihlus
all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces.
all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters.
Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon)
Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist)
Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)



+1 to all these guys! Here are versions of thee of those I would most like to see:

Lord Tyranous
Cost 137
160 HP, def 23, atk 19, dmg 20
Sa: 
unique (counts as Count Dooku)
Affinity Sith
triple attack
Makashi style mastery
Lightsaber duelist
Lightsaber Disarm (if all three of this characters attacks deal damage to one adjacent enemy with a lightsaber, that character has -20 damage for the rest of the skirmish, save 11)
Dark Inspiration (gives out Lightsaber duelist ability)
Dark Tutor (At the start of the skirmish, choose a living ally. If that ally does not have a Force rating, it gains Force 1 and Sith Rage and can spend this Force point normally; it is considered to have a Force rating for the rest of the skirmish. If that ally already has a Force rating, it gains 1 Force point.)
force 2
force renewal 2
master of the force 2
force lightning 4
Lightsaber riposte
Lightsaber deflect
Overwhelming Force 2
Surprise Move
Force Leap
CE
Unique Allied Commanders with a force rating gain Makashi Style

Ahsoka Tano, Jedi
35, 110, 18, 10, 20
SA: unique
 melee attack
twin attack
synergy with ani +4 attack and +4 defense )
mobile attack
Force 1
force renewal 1
Levitation
force push 2
Lightsaber Reflect
Lightsaber sweep

Natasi Daala
45, hp 70, def 15, atk 7, dmg 10
SA: 
unique
Affinity Imperial
Rival (Characters with force ratings/Jedi)
Tactician +4
CQC Fighting
Doctrine of Fear
mandalorian reinforcements 30 (non-unique mandalorians)
CE 
Non unique followers in your squad gain +4 attack and +10 damage against enemies with a force rating
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:30:49 AM
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AudriSampson wrote:
New Figures:
Chief of State Daala
Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer)
Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series)
Torso Anakin (think of a Vader version of Han in Carbonite)
Max Rebo, Sy Snootles and the band
a podracer
Master Krell

Remakes
Darth Nihlus
Darth Scion
Bail Organa (something rebel)
Vodo-Siosk Baas
Master Lucian Draay
all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces.
all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters.
Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon)
Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist)
Admiral Ackbar (greatest general in the Rebellion and a worthless mini
All the unloved NR Jedi.. Wolf Sazen and the bunch
Candorous Ordo
Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)


Agree with a lot of these.

and especially Zekk: 100% on board with this. I always really liked the character and I'd love a Zekk. There is so much fun stuff you could do with him from so many different times in his life! You could do a Fringe kid version, Imperial mid-version (I'd actually like to see a subfaction of the Shadow Academy folks,), Fringe Bounty Hunter, and an NR adult.


Canderous: We have a fairly new Canderous in Mandalore the Preserver, but then again he was pretty different as Mandalore, so I can see if you wanted another Canderous piece.
Ahsoka: I actually really like Commander Ahsoka from Galaxy at War. Her CE is mediocre, but she can work well in very specific squads. Wookiees to give them rolling cleave is my favorite, and cheap Jedi with Qui-Gon Jedi Trainer is another fun one.
General_Grievous
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:32:00 AM
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How about some old school Starfighter characters?

Vana Sage
23, HP 70, def 17, atk 9, Dmg 10
SA
Unique
Pilot
bounty hunter +4
speed 8
ion gun
Jolt
twin attack
escort/wingman (pilots within six squares gain protective +10 for this character)
CE 
Pilots in your squad gain ion gun and jolt

Rhys Dallows 
14, hp 60, def 17, atk 8, dmg 10
Unique
pilot
Naboo 
Flight Instructor (at the start of the skirmish choose one living non-unique follower, that ally gains pilot for the remainder of the skirmish)
mobile attack
evade
CE
Allied pilots gain mobile attack

Adi Gallia 
24, hp 80, def 17, ATk 9, dmg 20
Unique
pilot
Jedi reflexes
Force 4
force lightning 2
force sense
CE adjacent pilot characters gain jedi reflexes

Baron Separatist Pilot
14, HP 70 def 17, atk 9, dmg 10
SA
Unique
Pilot
Internal Strife
Accurate Shot
Cunning Attack
Mobile Attack
fett19
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:18:01 PM
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a playable nihilus
Darthbane53
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2012 9:59:17 AM
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Defiantly a fun piece to play, and I already have an awesome mini for him!

Rav 20
Hit Points: 80
Defense: 16
Attack: 8
Damage: 10
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Triple Attack (On his turn, this character can make 2 extra attacks instead of moving)
Rapport (Characters whose name contains Cade Skywalker or Jariah Syn cost 3 less when in the same squad as this character)
"Wanna buy some Death Sticks?" (Touch; adjacent living character is considered activated for this turn and gains -2 Attack and -2 defense until the end of the round. Save 11)
Sith Collaborator (Sith get +1 Attack for each character with Sith Collaborator within 2 squares of their target)
Commander Effect
Characters whos name contains Bloody Bones, Cade Skywalker ,or Jariah Syn get -4 on all saves and +3 attack
"The only true loyalty is to yourself. All other loyalties are for rent or sale." ―Rav
kezzamachine
Posted: Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:29:28 PM
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Ooo. Just finished Apocalypse!

Olazon
Void Jumpers
Stompers!
Hinkbert
Posted: Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:19:20 PM
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A playable Nihilus would be really nice. I remember trying so hard to make that piece playable back in the day, and it's just not doable.
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