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Another character(s) with LiftSturdier than the ASP-7. Faster would be even better. If you've never played the ASP-7, it can be a pretty useful piece and belongs in your Lobot reinforcements box. Hmm, how about a CE that gives it to Wookiees?
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swinefeld wrote:Another character(s) with LiftSturdier than the ASP-7. Faster would be even better. If you've never played the ASP-7, it can be a pretty useful piece and belongs in your Lobot reinforcements box. Hmm, how about a CE that gives it to Wookiees? My ASP-7 had never seen play simply because it's just too fragile. I love your idea there with the Wookiees!
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Viqi Shesh - Now, I can't remember where it is, but we had a big discussion on Gamers about a possibility for a Lobot-esque piece that had the 20pt Fringe reinforcements but was only for living, and had Vong collaborator or something... so the Vong could get a Lobot-type piece that could bring in only living so they didn't have to rely on a sacrilege piece like Loboto. It was a great conversation... hopefully someone can find it/make it...
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kezzamachine wrote:Viqi Shesh - Now, I can't remember where it is, but we had a big discussion on Gamers about a possibility for a Lobot-esque piece that had the 20pt Fringe reinforcements but was only for living, and had Vong collaborator or something... so the Vong could get a Lobot-type piece that could bring in only living so they didn't have to rely on a sacrilege piece like Loboto. It was a great conversation... hopefully someone can find it/make it... http://www.swmgamers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=15210
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I've been wondering about the possibility of a Fringe/Yuuzhan Vong character that can bring in 20 points of Fringe for the Vong - similar to Lobot, but not a Cyborg. Perhaps a Peace Brigade guy, or something? Someone who boosted Brigade dudes if he brought them in, but can also bring in anyone... but who could be quite useless to most other factions, maybe? Kind of a missiles becomes plasma eel type thing (Lobot becomes ...?)
That is an idea, maybe a Viqi Shesh or Dagga Marl if they ever get around to making them. Maybe that's something to put in the idea boards.
Viqi Shesh, 30pts Yuuzhan Vong Hp: 40 Def: 15 Att: +7 Dam: 10 Special Abilities Unique Melee Attack Force Immunity Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad. Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character. Synergy: +4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade." Stealth Firejelly Thud Bug/Razor Bug??? Commander Effect Allies whose name contains "Peace Brigade" gain Synergy (+4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade")
There's a quick rendition of what he could be. He's a stealth door-blower with Lobot's utility, but without Lobot's sacrilege (his Reinforcements must be living).
If he had Plasma Eel or something then he'd probably need to cost more. However, the thing is that he has to be pretty cheap outside of his reinforcements; that's part of the genius of the Lobot piece: he's only 7pts after his reinforcements, which makes it easy to fit him into a squad. There's a reason that Jabba the Hutt (RS) never sees play: he's 50pts, rather than 27. This guy needs to be cheap, or else he'll be too hard to use.
As is, he's a 10pt door-boomer with a very situational CE, who offers lots of good flexibility to his faction. Should he cost 28 or 29 instead? That would be for playtesting to discover.
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I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday about the state of the Rebel faction. The impression I've gotten with the addition of the V-sets and all the peices as a whole, is that the Rebels are kinda in the lower tier of competitve play now. The Imperials have taken a steep climb with all the V-sets, while the rebels haven't. I always saw the Rebels as the anti-imperials, and other than Disruptive, I don't see how the Rebels can really ruin the Imperials day. Thats why I came up with the idea of introducing a new SA to the Rebels, and in particular, on a Leia miniature.
Imperial Hunter (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against Imperial enemies)
This could be put on a Leia, and in WotC fashion be included in a CE. So here's a rough sketch of what I'd like to see.
Leia Organa, Rebel Leader
Cost: 14 HP:50 Def:15 Att:+7 Dmg:20
SA: Unique, Disciplined Leader, Imperial Hunter
Force: 2
CE: Rebel allies gain Imperial Hunter.
This new Leia would make for a great option for the Versatility to work on. The newest Leia from Scum and Villany allows you to replace that Leia with one of lesser cost and gain a SA from that version. So when the Rebels face the Imperials now, they have a solid option for increasing the damage output against Imperials, which makes sense, after all the Rebels did ambush the Imperials a lot and ran a war of atrition against them. The Imperials have always had good CE's that bump up defense. The Rebels on the other hand don't have much in the way of increasing damage and attack to counter that. Hence why I thin they need Imperial Hunter. It fits the faction and it similar to how the OR has Mandalorian Hunter and Sith Hunter, Vong have Droid Hunter and the YVH Droid has Vong Hunter.
I'd also like to suggest another Han Solo for the Rebels.
Captain Solo
Cost: 34 HP: 80 Def: 18 Att: +9 Dmg: 20
SA: Unique, Pilot, Accurate Shot, Cunning Attack +20, Never Tell Me the Odds.
A Han Solo with Pilot is badly needed. As Obi Wan said in Episode 4 when going to the Cantina: "some of the best star pilots can be found here". So why can't there be a Han Solo with Pilot? Not to mention, Han was proficient at swoop bike racing also in the years before the Rebels. It would be nice to have a usefull Han with Never Tell me the Odds also.
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I love the name "Captain Solo" as well as the stats! Although I do think he is a little under-priced. I vote for your Han with a couple of points tacked onto his cost! =)
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Good on a Jawa, for example:
Tinkerer: Usable once on this character's turn; an adjacent lower-cost droid is considered activated.
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A 4-point swap fodder piece that is better than a Rodian Brute.
Klatooinian Guard, Cost 4 HP:10 Def: 15 Atk: 5 Dmg: 10
Quick Reactions, Melee Attack
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Wynn Dorvan. Need him.
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kezzamachine wrote:Wynn Dorvan. Need him.
+1
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kezzamachine wrote:I've been wondering about the possibility of a Fringe/Yuuzhan Vong character that can bring in 20 points of Fringe for the Vong - similar to Lobot, but not a Cyborg. Perhaps a Peace Brigade guy, or something? Someone who boosted Brigade dudes if he brought them in, but can also bring in anyone... but who could be quite useless to most other factions, maybe? Kind of a missiles becomes plasma eel type thing (Lobot becomes ...?)
That is an idea, maybe a Viqi Shesh or Dagga Marl if they ever get around to making them. Maybe that's something to put in the idea boards.
Viqi Shesh, 30pts Yuuzhan Vong Hp: 40 Def: 15 Att: +7 Dam: 10 Special Abilities Unique Melee Attack Force Immunity Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad. Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character. Synergy: +4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade." Stealth Firejelly Thud Bug/Razor Bug??? Commander Effect Allies whose name contains "Peace Brigade" gain Synergy (+4 Attack and +4 Defense when within 6 squares of a character whose name contains "Peace Brigade")
There's a quick rendition of what he could be. He's a stealth door-blower with Lobot's utility, but without Lobot's sacrilege (his Reinforcements must be living).
If he had Plasma Eel or something then he'd probably need to cost more. However, the thing is that he has to be pretty cheap outside of his reinforcements; that's part of the genius of the Lobot piece: he's only 7pts after his reinforcements, which makes it easy to fit him into a squad. There's a reason that Jabba the Hutt (RS) never sees play: he's 50pts, rather than 27. This guy needs to be cheap, or else he'll be too hard to use.
As is, he's a 10pt door-boomer with a very situational CE, who offers lots of good flexibility to his faction. Should he cost 28 or 29 instead? That would be for playtesting to discover.
+1 Though I would take her more this route (mixing some of your ideas with an older posting of mine) Viqi Shesh 28, hp 50, def 15, ATk 8, dmg 10 SA Unique Diplomat Peace Brigade Yuuzhan Vong collaborator Living Fringe Reinforcements 20: During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you can add up to 20 points of living Fringe characters to your squad. Rapport: Characters whose name contains "Peace Brigade" cost 1 less when in a squad with this character. Relay Orders Tizo worm(this character counts as yuuzhan vong for the purpose of commander effects) CE Peace brigade allies gain Tizo worm Could give her Ooglith Masquer to make get more useful as well. As well how about: Peace Brigade Quartermaster 13, hp 10, def 15, ATk 5, dmg 10 SA Peace Brigade Yuuzhan Vong collaborator Thud bug Tizo worm(this character counts as yuuzhan vong for the purpose of commander effects) CE Peace Brigade Allies gain Vondumn Crab Armor 16 and thud bug
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New Figures: Chief of State Daala Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer) Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series) Torso Anakin (think of a Vader version of Han in Carbonite) Max Rebo, Sy Snootles and the band a podracer Master Krell
Remakes Darth Nihlus Darth Scion Bail Organa (something rebel) Vodo-Siosk Baas Master Lucian Draay all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces. all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters. Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon) Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist) Admiral Ackbar (greatest general in the Rebellion and a worthless mini All the unloved NR Jedi.. Wolf Sazen and the bunch Candorous Ordo Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)
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AudriSampson wrote:New Figures: Chief of State Daala Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer) Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series)
Remakes Darth Nihlus all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces. all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters. Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon) Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist) Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)
+1 to all these guys! Here are versions of thee of those I would most like to see: Lord Tyranous Cost 137 160 HP, def 23, atk 19, dmg 20 Sa: unique (counts as Count Dooku) Affinity Sith triple attack Makashi style mastery Lightsaber duelist Lightsaber Disarm (if all three of this characters attacks deal damage to one adjacent enemy with a lightsaber, that character has -20 damage for the rest of the skirmish, save 11) Dark Inspiration (gives out Lightsaber duelist ability) Dark Tutor (At the start of the skirmish, choose a living ally. If that ally does not have a Force rating, it gains Force 1 and Sith Rage and can spend this Force point normally; it is considered to have a Force rating for the rest of the skirmish. If that ally already has a Force rating, it gains 1 Force point.) force 2 force renewal 2 master of the force 2 force lightning 4 Lightsaber riposte Lightsaber deflect Overwhelming Force 2 Surprise Move Force Leap CE Unique Allied Commanders with a force rating gain Makashi Style Ahsoka Tano, Jedi 35, 110, 18, 10, 20 SA: unique melee attack twin attack synergy with ani +4 attack and +4 defense ) mobile attack Force 1 force renewal 1 Levitation force push 2 Lightsaber Reflect Lightsaber sweep Natasi Daala 45, hp 70, def 15, atk 7, dmg 10 SA: unique Affinity Imperial Rival (Characters with force ratings/Jedi) Tactician +4 CQC Fighting Doctrine of Fear mandalorian reinforcements 30 (non-unique mandalorians) CE Non unique followers in your squad gain +4 attack and +10 damage against enemies with a force rating
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AudriSampson wrote:New Figures: Chief of State Daala Castilla (I think thats the name of the girl who was stuck in starships computer) Zekk (the Jedi turned BH from the Young Jedi Knights series) Torso Anakin (think of a Vader version of Han in Carbonite) Max Rebo, Sy Snootles and the band a podracer Master Krell
Remakes Darth Nihlus Darth Scion Bail Organa (something rebel) Vodo-Siosk Baas Master Lucian Draay all the Hoth heavy artillery pieces. all the huge droids from Bounty Hunters. Count Dooku (we really need a Count Dooku that is the lightsaber badass that he is in the movies and cartoon) Nien Nub (something to make this figure have a reason to exist) Admiral Ackbar (greatest general in the Rebellion and a worthless mini All the unloved NR Jedi.. Wolf Sazen and the bunch Candorous Ordo Ahsoka Tano (I love the character but I cant find a reason to play her no matter how hard I try)
Agree with a lot of these. and especially Zekk: 100% on board with this. I always really liked the character and I'd love a Zekk. There is so much fun stuff you could do with him from so many different times in his life! You could do a Fringe kid version, Imperial mid-version (I'd actually like to see a subfaction of the Shadow Academy folks,), Fringe Bounty Hunter, and an NR adult. Canderous: We have a fairly new Canderous in Mandalore the Preserver, but then again he was pretty different as Mandalore, so I can see if you wanted another Canderous piece. Ahsoka: I actually really like Commander Ahsoka from Galaxy at War. Her CE is mediocre, but she can work well in very specific squads. Wookiees to give them rolling cleave is my favorite, and cheap Jedi with Qui-Gon Jedi Trainer is another fun one.
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How about some old school Starfighter characters?
Vana Sage 23, HP 70, def 17, atk 9, Dmg 10 SA Unique Pilot bounty hunter +4 speed 8 ion gun Jolt twin attack escort/wingman (pilots within six squares gain protective +10 for this character) CE Pilots in your squad gain ion gun and jolt
Rhys Dallows 14, hp 60, def 17, atk 8, dmg 10 Unique pilot Naboo Flight Instructor (at the start of the skirmish choose one living non-unique follower, that ally gains pilot for the remainder of the skirmish) mobile attack evade CE Allied pilots gain mobile attack
Adi Gallia 24, hp 80, def 17, ATk 9, dmg 20 Unique pilot Jedi reflexes Force 4 force lightning 2 force sense CE adjacent pilot characters gain jedi reflexes
Baron Separatist Pilot 14, HP 70 def 17, atk 9, dmg 10 SA Unique Pilot Internal Strife Accurate Shot Cunning Attack Mobile Attack
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a playable nihilus
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Defiantly a fun piece to play, and I already have an awesome mini for him!
Rav 20 Hit Points: 80 Defense: 16 Attack: 8 Damage: 10 Special Abilities Unique Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies) Triple Attack (On his turn, this character can make 2 extra attacks instead of moving) Rapport (Characters whose name contains Cade Skywalker or Jariah Syn cost 3 less when in the same squad as this character) "Wanna buy some Death Sticks?" (Touch; adjacent living character is considered activated for this turn and gains -2 Attack and -2 defense until the end of the round. Save 11) Sith Collaborator (Sith get +1 Attack for each character with Sith Collaborator within 2 squares of their target) Commander Effect Characters whos name contains Bloody Bones, Cade Skywalker ,or Jariah Syn get -4 on all saves and +3 attack "The only true loyalty is to yourself. All other loyalties are for rent or sale." ―Rav
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Ooo. Just finished Apocalypse!
Olazon Void Jumpers Stompers!
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A playable Nihilus would be really nice. I remember trying so hard to make that piece playable back in the day, and it's just not doable.
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