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#9 - Terentatek 146 points.
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On the last page, they gave the green light to go ahead and post last week's info, but I don't think anyone has yet. I didn't write down the costs, so I won't be the one to do the whole list, but the two that were hardest to hear were Tsavong Lah's father and the mutated rancor... Terentatek. I needed PM help with those myself. I'm sure someone will take the time to transcribe the whole list shortly.
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adamb0nd wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:Epic R2-D2
Cost: 150
HP: 30
Def: 16
Atk: 0
Dmg: 0
Special Abilities:
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Droid Hero: If you are about to lose the game, on a save of 2 you instead win the game. Fantastic. Also, since the pod cast specifically says not to post this stuff openly, i was hoping one of you guys with better ears+star wars knowledge could PM me. I have listened to the pod cast multiple times, and torn through wiki trying to figure out who they are talking about, but do not recognize the piece to locate it. It seems obvious that it is the fringe representation... and its the 9th piece they list off. If someone could pm me what they are saying... id appreciate it. It may have been lost now to our fanboy debate, but I've given the ok to go ahead an post the information. All we wanted was a few days of exclusivity for our regular listeners, but it's been a week, so share away in public. And one more point to Lord Ball. I would say these pieces are meant for the fanboys, but also to be balanced against one another to make them fun to play, and at least marginally balanced within the whole game so that they can be used for other purposes (mass battle - look for Epic 500pt format revision this fall). So in all honesty, they are a cross between fanboy desires, characters at the height of their power and balancing for fun skirmish play. I honestly thought Luke was the obvious choice for Rebels and really expected the fight with people would be over the choice of Mara for the NR. Oh and for clarity, in case you missed Chris' post, I did not make Luke. I designed Bane :)
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#12 - Czulkang Lah (137 ? points) Wookieepedia wrote: "As soon as you dispassionately place yourselves among those whom you are willing to send to certain death, you take another step toward strategic wisdom."
―Czulkang Lah I liked that quote.  Oh, and since Bill mentioned her, Mara is #10, at 126 points
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billiv15 wrote:wannabe mexican wrote:Also, Luke as the Rebel choice. I think this is the first addition to the game since WOTC dropped us that I actually think was poorly chosen. I just don't feel Luke was that great during the rebel years.
He defeats the Emperor and fulfills the prophecy by turning his Father back. If it weren't for the EU books that took him to ridiculous levels, he would be still considered the most powerful jedi. Remember, Star Wars existed long before the ability to eat a planet was created. But let's no forget, Luke saved the galaxy from the Dark Side, and did so almost entirely on his own. Now, he isn't just a 100pt Rebel version of the NR Luke GM anyway, so wait until you see him. But for those of us who remember the years where no other jedi could possibly outclass the Luke from RotJ, this character is for us. As for it being "poorly chosen" - I think only your choice of those words was poorly chosen. I understand others will agree with the opinion that Luke "wasn't that great as a Rebel" but the existence of that opinion does not make our choice poor. Luke was far and away the most important character in the Rebellion, and was the obvious choice for an Epic. "poor choice" would imply there were better one's that we ignored. That is patently untrue. Please name one character who fits this. I think you meant something else, but Luke was and is the best Rebel character, and his powers as a Rebel were quite great. I understand some of you, particularly the younger crowd won't accept that. Some of us older crowd arn't thrilled with an epic rebel Luke either Bill. I think you were a little hard on Wannabe mexican there Bill. Even your biggest supporters can still disagree with you on occasion. That's still allowed, right? 
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Sashlon wrote:billiv15 wrote:wannabe mexican wrote:Also, Luke as the Rebel choice. I think this is the first addition to the game since WOTC dropped us that I actually think was poorly chosen. I just don't feel Luke was that great during the rebel years.
He defeats the Emperor and fulfills the prophecy by turning his Father back. If it weren't for the EU books that took him to ridiculous levels, he would be still considered the most powerful jedi. Remember, Star Wars existed long before the ability to eat a planet was created. But let's no forget, Luke saved the galaxy from the Dark Side, and did so almost entirely on his own. Now, he isn't just a 100pt Rebel version of the NR Luke GM anyway, so wait until you see him. But for those of us who remember the years where no other jedi could possibly outclass the Luke from RotJ, this character is for us. As for it being "poorly chosen" - I think only your choice of those words was poorly chosen. I understand others will agree with the opinion that Luke "wasn't that great as a Rebel" but the existence of that opinion does not make our choice poor. Luke was far and away the most important character in the Rebellion, and was the obvious choice for an Epic. "poor choice" would imply there were better one's that we ignored. That is patently untrue. Please name one character who fits this. I think you meant something else, but Luke was and is the best Rebel character, and his powers as a Rebel were quite great. I understand some of you, particularly the younger crowd won't accept that. Some of us older crowd arn't thrilled with an epic rebel Luke either Bill. I think you were a little hard on Wannabe mexican there Bill. Even your biggest supporters can still disagree with you on occasion. That's still allowed, right? Of course it is :) But remember, my point of view was spoken from someone who when it came to jedi, I knew Luke, Yoda and Obi. Luke was clearly the best of those three :)
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Full list has been posted hereLet's keep the discussions here for now until we have some official stats. Thanks!
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Show what exactly is the "The Phantom Menace"
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wait....Im a bit confused. Why are we speculating when all of them were alredy supposedly spoiled in a podcast?
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creme_brule wrote:wait....Im a bit confused. Why are we speculating when all of them were alredy supposedly spoiled in a podcast? All we have is a list of *characters* (mostly, a few names are probably as is) and point costs. You can speculate on the full names, what stats and abilities they will have, etc. Try to guess the stats. Maybe someone will confirm something. Funny, after all the Luke discussion, I just realized he has the highest point cost. Interesting.
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swinefeld wrote:creme_brule wrote:wait....Im a bit confused. Why are we speculating when all of them were alredy supposedly spoiled in a podcast? All we have is a list of *characters* (mostly, a few names are probably as is) and point costs. You can speculate on the full names, what stats and abilities they will have, etc. Try to guess the stats. Maybe someone will confirm something. Funny, after all the Luke discussion, I just realized he has the highest point cost. Interesting. I think I accidently spoiled a character's full name b/c I thought all the characters' full names were revealed in the podcast. Whoops. 
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Hmmm seems my question got totally overlooked when the Luke discussion got cranking so here it goes again:
"I know this may have already have been posted somewhere, possibly even in this thread, however to save me trawling through everything again can someone please tell me how I will be able to get a hold of one of these sets of Epic Cards?"
Thanks ;)
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rundummy wrote:Hmmm seems my question got totally overlooked when the Luke discussion got cranking so here it goes again:
"I know this may have already have been posted somewhere, possibly even in this thread, however to save me trawling through everything again can someone please tell me how I will be able to get a hold of one of these sets of Epic Cards?"
Thanks ;) Same Way as the DOTF Vset. For this set(s) those that made donations for the 3 Vsets (RnR/BoT/Epic) should have contacted there point-men by now to request a set. If you made a donation for the Vset but not all 3 sets still worth asking. If you did not make a donation you can try asking point-men for your area to request a set of free cards for you, but you are not guaranteed a set for three reasons 1. requests should have already been made by now 2. Epic set will not have as many cards printed as the regular set. 3. All sets might already be spoken for. However you having nothing to lose by asking. If you cannot get hold of a set for whatever reason the set will be available as a free download shortly after Gencon or on release day.
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creme_brule wrote:Whoops. Shhh...maybe nobody will notice. 
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Wondering...seems like they mentioned on SHNN a few weeks ago when releasing the Epic minis that they would release the stats and abilities soon as well, did I hear that right? Hoping that is true so I can starting cobbling together possible combinations for GenCon. Also, I know they (duos) don't have to equal 200 points, but do they have to be legal otherwise (I would guess so). Meaning, faction rules do apply? Thanks.
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AceAce wrote:Wondering...seems like they mentioned on SHNN a few weeks ago when releasing the Epic minis that they would release the stats and abilities soon as well, did I hear that right? Hoping that is true so I can starting cobbling together possible combinations for GenCon. Also, I know they (duos) don't have to equal 200 points, but do they have to be legal otherwise (I would guess so). Meaning, faction rules do apply? Thanks. Wrong, you won't get any more than we've already given until Gencon. That's part of the fun. You have the figures and their point cost, so it shouldn't take more than 10-12 pieces to find a nice fit with every figure (heck can probably get away with about 5)
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152pts. Epic Vader + 48pts. VAU = 200pts. Epic Duo!! Woah!!!  
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I don't mind the choice of a Rebel Luke, though I can see why some people would want Starkiller...but I would propose that Luke does not have to be the best fighter or have the strongest force powers to be the most costly. Starting with Vader, Luke had a long history in the EU of turning people away from the dark side... so if he has an ability that demonstrates that in-game... and can make it work ...its an auto-win, particularly in Epic Duo. This is pure speculation on my part, but it would be pretty interesting...
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Darth_Sal wrote:I don't mind the choice of a Rebel Luke, though I can see why some people would want Starkiller...but I would propose that Luke does not have to be the best fighter or have the strongest force powers to be the most costly. Starting with Vader, Luke had a long history in the EU of turning people away from the dark side... so if he has an ability that demonstrates that in-game... and can make it work ...its an auto-win, particularly in Epic Duo. This is pure speculation on my part, but it would be pretty interesting... I could see him having an ability that could prevent enemies from using dark side powers, which wouldn't necessarily nerf their ability to fight completely, but would reduce their effectiveness by a good bit. Not being able to use lightning, sorcery, etc. Something more specific than Force Defense (though that would be the easy way to go). My curiosity is piqued for sure..
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