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Speculating, based on the info that there will be something only ever seen in BoH before, could The Phantom Menace be a hologram Palpatine with crazy force powers? (Or do we see the second coming of Fire Support Mission?  )
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@RyM - It was stated on the show that it won't be Fire Support Mission.
Someone stated above that it could be Rapport with a higher cost reduction as with Blizzard Scout 1 > AT-STs.
Flanking Attack seems unlikely, but I haven't explored the possible combos with Mounted Weapon characters.
Out of the possibilities, I like the idea of Rapport, probably for specific characters from the 3 factions he can be with that would allow better versions of them to be played within the point limit. (Maul, Vader/Anakin, Dooku?)
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Yoda's the one that interests me the most. I'd like to see Vicious, Flurry, Deadly, Ataru, Twin, Quad, GMA, Speed 8, and Evade, MOTF 2-3, Force Leap, Master Speed, Force Defense, Renewal, Whirlwind attack, and 10 Damage. Lotsa little stinging jabs. OF course a 150 sumthin' pt. Luke is interesting too.
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So how exactly is Mandalore the First going to be made if we explicitly know nothing of 24,000 BBY and of him.
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plokoon9619 wrote:So how exactly is Mandalore the First going to be made if we explicitly know nothing of 24,000 BBY and of him. He's obviously going to have the Mythosaur Hunter special ability, giving him bonuses against any character larger than the battle grid.
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AdmiralMotti89 wrote:plokoon9619 wrote:So how exactly is Mandalore the First going to be made if we explicitly know nothing of 24,000 BBY and of him. He's obviously going to have the Mythosaur Hunter special ability, giving him bonuses against any character larger than the battle grid. lol, me and my friend we joking that since we know nothing about him, he would have some random SA like Rapport for Dejariks heh heh
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here is some pics of potential Terentatek pieces Black Slaad... other slaad types (Green, red, curse, blue, Talon) (the green is quite cheap, blue very expensive)  Hezrou.. there are two versions... this is th more recent and prob cheaper version 
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plokoon9619 wrote:So how exactly is Mandalore the First going to be made if we explicitly know nothing of 24,000 BBY and of him. anything that would be the ultimate super beast for melee combat is my guess. I can't imagine it would be ranged.
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billiv15 wrote:Sashlon wrote:billiv15 wrote:wannabe mexican wrote:Also, Luke as the Rebel choice. I think this is the first addition to the game since WOTC dropped us that I actually think was poorly chosen. I just don't feel Luke was that great during the rebel years.
He defeats the Emperor and fulfills the prophecy by turning his Father back. If it weren't for the EU books that took him to ridiculous levels, he would be still considered the most powerful jedi. Remember, Star Wars existed long before the ability to eat a planet was created. But let's no forget, Luke saved the galaxy from the Dark Side, and did so almost entirely on his own. Now, he isn't just a 100pt Rebel version of the NR Luke GM anyway, so wait until you see him. But for those of us who remember the years where no other jedi could possibly outclass the Luke from RotJ, this character is for us. As for it being "poorly chosen" - I think only your choice of those words was poorly chosen. I understand others will agree with the opinion that Luke "wasn't that great as a Rebel" but the existence of that opinion does not make our choice poor. Luke was far and away the most important character in the Rebellion, and was the obvious choice for an Epic. "poor choice" would imply there were better one's that we ignored. That is patently untrue. Please name one character who fits this. I think you meant something else, but Luke was and is the best Rebel character, and his powers as a Rebel were quite great. I understand some of you, particularly the younger crowd won't accept that. Some of us older crowd arn't thrilled with an epic rebel Luke either Bill. I think you were a little hard on Wannabe mexican there Bill. Even your biggest supporters can still disagree with you on occasion. That's still allowed, right?  Of course it is :) But remember, my point of view was spoken from someone who when it came to jedi, I knew Luke, Yoda and Obi. Luke was clearly the best of those three :) Yep of those three, good thing there are no more insanely powered unleashing of the force, founder of the rebellion, more powerful then the emperor and Vader put together, tends to pull star destroyers out of orbit, rebel Jedi out there... Yep good thing...... COUGH STARKILLER COUGH! Haha just kidding Billiv15 I don't mind the choice of Luke, but Starkiller is a way better shoe in for an epic force using rebel monster. My biggest head scratchers are actually directed at Darth Maul and Mace Windu as picks. Mainly because they are both already coming out with new iterations in R&R/BoT, but secondly because Dooku/Grievous are much more powerful then Maul. *raises shield to dodge Maul fanboy backlash*. Also No Obi-Wan slayer of two of the epic characters on there (albeit his GOWK is already pretty powerful when matched up against almost anything). I am most excited for the Vong piece to see what you do with the senior Lah. Keep up the good work and hope to see a second epic set, with some more of the powerhouses mentioned above. Cool fresh idea and a nice foil to the standard set.
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General_Grievous wrote:billiv15 wrote:Sashlon wrote:billiv15 wrote:wannabe mexican wrote:Also, Luke as the Rebel choice. I think this is the first addition to the game since WOTC dropped us that I actually think was poorly chosen. I just don't feel Luke was that great during the rebel years.
He defeats the Emperor and fulfills the prophecy by turning his Father back. If it weren't for the EU books that took him to ridiculous levels, he would be still considered the most powerful jedi. Remember, Star Wars existed long before the ability to eat a planet was created. But let's no forget, Luke saved the galaxy from the Dark Side, and did so almost entirely on his own. Now, he isn't just a 100pt Rebel version of the NR Luke GM anyway, so wait until you see him. But for those of us who remember the years where no other jedi could possibly outclass the Luke from RotJ, this character is for us. As for it being "poorly chosen" - I think only your choice of those words was poorly chosen. I understand others will agree with the opinion that Luke "wasn't that great as a Rebel" but the existence of that opinion does not make our choice poor. Luke was far and away the most important character in the Rebellion, and was the obvious choice for an Epic. "poor choice" would imply there were better one's that we ignored. That is patently untrue. Please name one character who fits this. I think you meant something else, but Luke was and is the best Rebel character, and his powers as a Rebel were quite great. I understand some of you, particularly the younger crowd won't accept that. Some of us older crowd arn't thrilled with an epic rebel Luke either Bill. I think you were a little hard on Wannabe mexican there Bill. Even your biggest supporters can still disagree with you on occasion. That's still allowed, right? Of course it is :) But remember, my point of view was spoken from someone who when it came to jedi, I knew Luke, Yoda and Obi. Luke was clearly the best of those three :) Yep of those three, good thing there are no more insanely powered unleashing of the force, founder of the rebellion, more powerful then the emperor and Vader put together, tends to pull star destroyers out of orbit, rebel Jedi out there... Yep good thing...... COUGH STARKILLER COUGH! Haha just kidding Billiv15 I don't mind the choice of Luke, but Starkiller is a way better shoe in for an epic force using rebel monster. My biggest head scratchers are actually directed at Darth Maul and Mace Windu as picks. Mainly because they are both already coming out with new iterations in R&R/BoT, but secondly because Dooku/Grievous are much more powerful then Maul. *raises shield to dodge Maul fanboy backlash*. Also No Obi-Wan slayer of two of the epic characters on there (albeit his GOWK is already pretty powerful when matched up against almost anything). I am most excited for the Vong piece to see what you do with the senior Lah. Keep up the good work and hope to see a second epic set, with some more of the powerhouses mentioned above. Cool fresh idea and a nice foil to the standard set. Starkiller is a terrible character in lore really and doesn't need to be represented in Epic Format.
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Darth_Sal wrote:I don't mind the choice of a Rebel Luke, though I can see why some people would want Starkiller...but I would propose that Luke does not have to be the best fighter or have the strongest force powers to be the most costly. Starting with Vader, Luke had a long history in the EU of turning people away from the dark side... so if he has an ability that demonstrates that in-game... and can make it work ...its an auto-win, particularly in Epic Duo. This is pure speculation on my part, but it would be pretty interesting... Ahh like the ability Turn to the Lightside instead of the already established in Dark Times Turn to the Darkside. I Feel the Good in You: Force 1, usable only on this character's turn: range 6; 40 damage to 1 target with a Force rating. The target can choose to negate this damage and instead make a save of 16; if the save fails, the target joins this character's squad until the end of the skirmish. Now that's worth 156 points!
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Cool to wait until GenCon until learning the abilities, etc. but don't the people that already know them have an advantage if they are playing as well? Perhaps not as they also do not know who they will draw on the dice roll. Whatever the case, cannot wait to play it sounds like fun.
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General_Grievous wrote:billiv15 wrote:Sashlon wrote:billiv15 wrote:wannabe mexican wrote:Also, Luke as the Rebel choice. I think this is the first addition to the game since WOTC dropped us that I actually think was poorly chosen. I just don't feel Luke was that great during the rebel years.
He defeats the Emperor and fulfills the prophecy by turning his Father back. If it weren't for the EU books that took him to ridiculous levels, he would be still considered the most powerful jedi. Remember, Star Wars existed long before the ability to eat a planet was created. But let's no forget, Luke saved the galaxy from the Dark Side, and did so almost entirely on his own. Now, he isn't just a 100pt Rebel version of the NR Luke GM anyway, so wait until you see him. But for those of us who remember the years where no other jedi could possibly outclass the Luke from RotJ, this character is for us. As for it being "poorly chosen" - I think only your choice of those words was poorly chosen. I understand others will agree with the opinion that Luke "wasn't that great as a Rebel" but the existence of that opinion does not make our choice poor. Luke was far and away the most important character in the Rebellion, and was the obvious choice for an Epic. "poor choice" would imply there were better one's that we ignored. That is patently untrue. Please name one character who fits this. I think you meant something else, but Luke was and is the best Rebel character, and his powers as a Rebel were quite great. I understand some of you, particularly the younger crowd won't accept that. Some of us older crowd arn't thrilled with an epic rebel Luke either Bill. I think you were a little hard on Wannabe mexican there Bill. Even your biggest supporters can still disagree with you on occasion. That's still allowed, right? Of course it is :) But remember, my point of view was spoken from someone who when it came to jedi, I knew Luke, Yoda and Obi. Luke was clearly the best of those three :) Yep of those three, good thing there are no more insanely powered unleashing of the force, founder of the rebellion, more powerful then the emperor and Vader put together, tends to pull star destroyers out of orbit, rebel Jedi out there... Yep good thing...... COUGH STARKILLER COUGH! Haha just kidding Billiv15 I don't mind the choice of Luke, but Starkiller is a way better shoe in for an epic force using rebel monster. My biggest head scratchers are actually directed at Darth Maul and Mace Windu as picks. Mainly because they are both already coming out with new iterations in R&R/BoT, but secondly because Dooku/Grievous are much more powerful then Maul. *raises shield to dodge Maul fanboy backlash*. Also No Obi-Wan slayer of two of the epic characters on there (albeit his GOWK is already pretty powerful when matched up against almost anything). I am most excited for the Vong piece to see what you do with the senior Lah. Keep up the good work and hope to see a second epic set, with some more of the powerhouses mentioned above. Cool fresh idea and a nice foil to the standard set. Lol; they should just bring back GOWK without his errata and that could be an epic mini :P
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I'm happy with the Epic Characters picked. I'm personally glad to not see a StarKiller who's obscenely powerful. One of the Posters in this thread talked about eating a planet, and unfortunately thats where the EU is at right now. I'm one of the biggest supporters of the EU just my opinion, the legacy series is Brutal.... I mean Brutal..... And Starkiller doing what he did in the Video Games and Novels ect. was way way over the top. Just a small rant... sorry... I can't wait to see the Epic Mace! I think this whole set was Great Idea!
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Rebel Luke in Shadows of Mindor is pretty cool... or is that NR? Anyhoo, the scene where he breaks the rifle in one hand and then absorbs all those blaster shots in the other is uber. I read that one bit a gazillion times.
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billiv15 wrote:But remember, my point of view was spoken from someone who when it came to jedi, I knew Luke, Yoda and Obi. Luke was clearly the best of those three :) Depends on what aspect of the Jedi you're talking about - Yoda clearly demonstrated that he was more powerful in the Force when he easily lifted the X-Wing out of the swamp, however Luke's lightsaber skills in the OT were definitely displayed better than either of the other 2. qvos wrote:I'm personally glad to not see a StarKiller who's obscenely powerful. Instead you'll get a Luke that is obscenely powerful.
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Lord_Ball wrote:
Instead you'll get a Luke that is obscenely powerful.
Just because someone is an Epic piece doesn't mean they are obscenely powerful. I'm sure the designers thought up unique ways to handle the pieces...
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qvos wrote:And Starkiller doing what he did in the Video Games and Novels ect. was way way over the top. Just a small rant... sorry... I can't wait to see the Epic Mace! I think this whole set was Great Idea! Agreed, agreed, agreed.
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jedispyder wrote:Lord_Ball wrote:
Instead you'll get a Luke that is obscenely powerful.
Just because someone is an Epic piece doesn't mean they are obscenely powerful. I'm sure the designers thought up unique ways to handle the pieces... Well I was waiting until I saw the stats, but Billiv made clear that my expectations were probably too high...
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I'm glad not to see Starkiller on the list. If you want to use the phrase "poorly chosen" then I would apply that to Lucasfilm for even considering "The Force Unleashed" part of the canon. Starkiller is a lame character, and after reading "The Force Unleashed 2" I'm glad to hear that any plans for a third have been scrapped at the moment.
The word "Epic" shouldn't necessarily deal with their powers and abilities. Luke is the only choice for an "Epic" Rebel mini because without him, there would be no Star Wars. That's what makes him "Epic", not the over-the-top, cliched abilities, and paper thin characterization that we've been subjected to in the "hero" that is Galen Marek.
This is the one time I would vehemently disagree with George Lucas for authorizing such a stupid concept to be added to the lore. "Ok, so basically this flat boring character with no traits of his own is the founder of the organization that propels the classic Trilogy. Oh yeah, he falls in love with some generic blonde chick for no reason, is shown to be more powerful than Darth Vader on all occasions, can stand his own against the Emperor, and is dumb as dirt when all is said and done. And none of this will ever be told to Luke Skywalker as he quests to become a Jedi Knight. We'll make tons of money off of it because it will look cool, but it will lack vital qualities that make Star Wars so great."
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