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V4 "Scum and Villainy" *SPOILERS* Options
Jonnyb815
Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:48:19 PM
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Check out gamers for the KY regional ones
leshippy
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From KY Regional -

SpecForce Technician 22/60
Cost 15
HP 30
DEF 14
ATK +1
DAm 10

SA
Blaster Upgrade
Munitions Supplies
Rig Blaster
Stealth

Princess Leia, Rebel Commando 21/60
19
60
15
+8
10

SA
Uniue
Accurate Shot
Cunning Attack
Stealth
Versatility - [At the start of the skirmish, after set-up, you may replace this character of an equal or lesser cost who counts as Leia. The chosen replacement gains one of this character's other special abilites. If the replacement's cost 5 less than this character's cost, she also gains this character's commander effect.

FP
force 2
Surprise Attack [Force 2; Once after INT is determined, this character can make an immediate attack.

CE
Unique Rebel allies within 6 squares get +10 Damage while this character is wounded.

Enjoy. I also had the customs that I have been working on for Scum and Villany and Jedi vs Sith. i am not sure if anyone took pics of them or not.
swinefeld
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:04:34 AM
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Pretty good stuff. Go read the comments. http://www.swmgamers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15333&start=0

(I already made a stealth update to the main post Wink )
Darthbane53
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:34:17 AM
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It seems some of my play report suggestions were taken in to consideration!
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:01:41 AM
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wow.... Specforce Technician is crazy good...... twin, jolt.... 15 points..... Don't know if i like that for a 15 point piece with stealth....
Echo24
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:09:58 AM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
wow.... Specforce Technician is crazy good...... twin, jolt.... 15 points..... Don't know if i like that for a 15 point piece with stealth....


Quick, name 5 Rebel pieces that are competitive and benefit from him! Tongue

Seriously though, it is a really good piece, and there are some neat combos (the best are probably this new Leia and the SpecForce Infiltrator, which was part of the point), but you definitely have to build around it. You might play one with ERCs or something, but you could have always done that with the Verpine Tech. New Luke Farmboy is another option, but it's kind of mediocre. You could do it with the Red Squadron Aces, but again you could have always done that with the Verpine Tech since they already have Twin.

It's something that will get MORE options in the future, but right now there really aren't many strong Rebel pieces that benefit from it. And by that I mean there are NO Han Solos that benefit from it, and the only Luke that does is relatively weak, and lets be honest, most Rebel squads are all about playing different Hans and Lukes.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:23:45 PM
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Echo24 wrote:
Deaths_Baine wrote:
wow.... Specforce Technician is crazy good...... twin, jolt.... 15 points..... Don't know if i like that for a 15 point piece with stealth....


Quick, name 5 Rebel pieces that are competitive and benefit from him! Tongue

Seriously though, it is a really good piece, and there are some neat combos (the best are probably this new Leia and the SpecForce Infiltrator, which was part of the point), but you definitely have to build around it. You might play one with ERCs or something, but you could have always done that with the Verpine Tech. New Luke Farmboy is another option, but it's kind of mediocre. You could do it with the Red Squadron Aces, but again you could have always done that with the Verpine Tech since they already have Twin.

It's something that will get MORE options in the future, but right now there really aren't many strong Rebel pieces that benefit from it. And by that I mean there are NO Han Solos that benefit from it, and the only Luke that does is relatively weak, and lets be honest, most Rebel squads are all about playing different Hans and Lukes.


Briaana Would be pretty awesome with it....
Rohlan Dyre
Lando Calrissian, Hero of Taanab
Greedo, Bounty Hunter
One of my favorites for this:Wookiee Freedom Fighter
Sithborg
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:44:08 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
wow.... Specforce Technician is crazy good...... twin, jolt.... 15 points..... Don't know if i like that for a 15 point piece with stealth....


He doesn't have it himself.

Also, with every piece competing with the ERC (with Cunning +20), I think giving other Rebel pieces options is good. There are some fun stuff you can break out again with this piece.
swinefeld
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:57:56 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:


Briaana Would be pretty awesome with it....
Rohlan Dyre
Lando Calrissian, Hero of Taanab
Greedo, Bounty Hunter
One of my favorites for this:Wookiee Freedom Fighter


+5 ThumpUp

I like how his SA's overlap with the ERC and TBSV. Still good with them, but you're giving up stuff for the points.
(I think this was kind of Sithborg's point - "these are not figs you are looking for".

Bust out Biggs Darklighter and Farmboy Luke! (and the Klatooinian Captain of course)
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 4:28:08 PM
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Sithborg wrote:
Deaths_Baine wrote:
wow.... Specforce Technician is crazy good...... twin, jolt.... 15 points..... Don't know if i like that for a 15 point piece with stealth....


He doesn't have it himself.

Also, with every piece competing with the ERC (with Cunning +20), I think giving other Rebel pieces options is good. There are some fun stuff you can break out again with this piece.



lol, i know he doesn't have it i meant that he gave it out for 15 points.
Sithborg
Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:23:41 PM
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You need to look at who he actually benefits, though. Jolt is a really, really bad idea with Commandos, you don't want to give up your Cunning +20. That, and you can use 20 dam Commandos with Page. Pilots may be the primary beneficiary, but I like that you can replace the Rebel Captain when using cheap troopers. It is an option for Rebels, which they need more of, since their go to stuff has sort of faded away.
countrydude82487
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:35:11 AM
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it also works for this leia
Weeks
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:08:56 AM
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Specforce Infiltrator anyone? For a mear 30 points you get 80 damage shooter and a stunner for your build. The tech also hands out grenades to your scrubs so everything you have is attacking in some fashion.
adamb0nd
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:43:56 AM
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Love this leia, but she looks really tricky to use... what's the best swap out option?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:54:01 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Love this leia, but she looks really tricky to use... what's the best swap out option?


In general, she looks better than the other swap out options, so don't necessarily swap out at all. But for some specific enemies...

Take Cloud City versus super-stealth.
Perhaps take Rebel Hero if facing a swarm so allies can move a bit and see more targets.
Perhaps take Diplomat Leia if you really need a Diplomat to block (e.g. versus all Melee on a tight map).

In most cases, I'd guess Accurate is probably the best SA to grant to the replacement.
Echo24
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:24:39 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Love this leia, but she looks really tricky to use... what's the best swap out option?


Swapping her out for Diplomat Leia is really interesting, because you can use something like Momaw Nadon to damage her, and then it's really hard for your opponent to finish her off even if she's at the front lines, so it's easy to take advantage of her CE. You would also take Accurate or Cunning depending on the matchup.

She's definitely a good piece on her own, though, so it's not necessary to swap her out at all. FlyingArrow is also right to point out that Cloud City Leia is a really good option if you're against Super Stealth.
Weeks
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:33:57 AM
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Also don't forget with this Leia you can easily have a 60 damage accurate shooter. Leia + Crix + SpecForce Tech = 50 points. Still pleanty to build with and you have 2 sweet CE's and other Usefull abilities.
jlbm347
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:10:33 AM
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Leia, Rebel Commando would get super stealth in the same vain as Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando.
adamb0nd
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:14:29 AM
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Weeks wrote:
Also don't forget with this Leia you can easily have a 60 damage accurate shooter. Leia + Crix + SpecForce Tech = 50 points. Still pleanty to build with and you have 2 sweet CE's and other Usefull abilities.


Wonder if the cunning attack thing is enough to make Leia with Oboe from Dark Times playable. +13 for 50 double attack vs droids is pretty impressive.
swinefeld
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:25:21 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Weeks wrote:
Also don't forget with this Leia you can easily have a 60 damage accurate shooter. Leia + Crix + SpecForce Tech = 50 points. Still pleanty to build with and you have 2 sweet CE's and other Usefull abilities.


Wonder if the cunning attack thing is enough to make Leia with Oboe from Dark Times playable. +13 for 50 double attack vs droids is pretty impressive.


I think that's a bassoon, (and IE, not DT) but she costs too much. Sad
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