Essentially he got from Marn...3 activations..3 med. base swap fodder that wasn't really fodder but was in fact 20 auto damage pains in the asses.

no because it is after setup

IMO messing with other people's squads is dirty. If you change bribery, please change that darn Luke that joins your squad. These pieces don't really fit what the game should be. Just straight drop the pieces don't even errata them.

we have over 1600 of them, they won't be missed.

I see TK-421 getting talked about a little bit in this thread as well, so I'll throw my two cents in regarding him. I think that even though the idea of killing a piece makes your entire squad concept basically fall apart is really dumb, the main problem with him is that he can get gambit. So ironically enough, I think a very easy fix is to make him 9 points. That way he's a good option in Daala squads or even Thrawn swap squads still against Fringe that can't be hit back. You can even use Moff Disra to bring him in with Bribery against Fringe still. I have to agree with the fact that we just made all-Fringe squads good, so I don't think they needed as big a nerf as this piece delivers to them.
Conclusion: Make him 9 points. 20 to 30 Damage cheap shooter that can't be killed until the very end? Effective, but not overpowered. Cheap shooter that sits in gambit the entire game and can't be killed until the very end, earning maybe 3 or 4 times his point cost just because nobody can do anything about it? Overpowered, cheap, and not fun for either side.

I was in the same boat with not really having any experience with Marn. Fortunately, for me, I had a Disciple of Ragnos to keep Laura at bay or I would have been obliterated. I still believe though, that if we would have had more time, Laura's Squad would have run over me.

I believe Marn's initial purpose was to counter the Auto include Lobot. I don't think that should change. I do believe that if you bring in reinforcements, and Marn steals them, you should be able to give out Con Artist to those pieces as they were originally in those squads, but to give it out to random 3 and 4 point pieces seems a stretch

Has this happened to you? Or anyone yet? (haven't really paid attention )
If so, what were the results?

So the last time and only time Marn was GenCon champion was in 2013, with Ricky's NR squad "Professor Luke's Art Class", which by the way, had Jareal in the squad. We then had Mando's ( GenCon 2014 ), no Marn, and Imperials ( GenCon 2015), no Marn. I don't see Marn being such a problem??????? I'm sorry, but what I am hearing now of Marn needing a change, I never heard back when Ricky won GenCon 2013. That has been 3 years now! As far as him being a counter to Vong, are you kidding me???????????? We absolutely need him in the game to counter the Vong. Force Immunity is powerful enough, The Yommusk, along with the 10 pt Lah Warriors, +4 to saves, blast bugs etc....I could go on and on about the Vong. There should be a counter and various ways to get access to counters before nerfing/changing characters.

We should see what happens this year, GenCon 2016, as it's so close to the championship. I don't think that any decisions should be made until after the GenCon dust settles. Then, if there are changes that need to be discussed, there should be extensive criteria that is listed and expressive concrete reasons and situations that lead to characters being changed. Also, the balance committee should be open book to the community and give all the reasons and explanations/criteria etc. before they go and make more changes to the game. I completely agreed with the changes they made last time with ( Mouse droids, Poggle, etc......), totally justified and warranted. Sorry, I'm just not feeling it with the explanations and reasoning that some of you guys are saying regarding Marn.

Sounds good to just wait it out and see. Playing and gathering data is the best way to test over the small sample size. I think the reason Marn hasn't been an issue is because there hasn't had much use for it until Vader of Lothal made Sid popular again and until the boom in vong-bugs. Until then at best you were stealing opportunist or something.

Doesn't really impact me directly since the group I play with doesn't use these 2 pieces and have gone away from bug-Vong too. I just feel invested enough in the game to speak out when I see something I don't care for. Tourney players can have their game and I'll have mine. I just like to read my own writing I guess

I was looking through pieces and I had an idea that could possible help solve this little "issue" with Marn. So you know the ability Anarchist? Suppresses enemy and ally commander effects. Well, OK, just make a cheapish Fringe piece that has the equivalent of Distraction, but it suppresses enemy and ally commander effects. Wouldn't be to overpowered because we have Crumb already who's 5 point Distraction. Maybe even make the piece Unique, I'm sure someone in the Star Wars fits this description. Doesn't at all help the Vong against Marn, but it helps Palpatine not lose all of his Force against him. Wait until Marn and the Ugnaughts activate, and then move away from adjacent so that the force battery kicks in again. Even make him 15-20 points so he's a Lobot option. It might just be easier to change the ability that Bribery gives, but if we do that we don't have the counter to Vong that we need. What do you guys think of this?